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Thanks for your update Silver. Glad to know you got your claim successfully registered.

As for me, I will have my translated documents by Sunday morning. I got them done by Diamond Translators, since they're located on Rigga street and are pretty close to the Rent Committee. I hope to zip in and out with my documents and head straight to the committee to register.

In addition to emails, I've also sent a notice via courier to both my landlord and agent. I've tracked it online and status is 'no one to receive'. Sneaky landlady, thinks she can get away with this so easily. Oh well. My email should still count; the letter was just an extra precautionary measure.

Hopefully all goes well for me on Sunday. It's extra stressful running around in the sun while fasting at the same time, but hey, I'm determined to not let these greedy bullies unlawfully take my hard earned money.

Best of luck with your appointment. Definitely give an update once it's done. I shall do the same.

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I have a (hopeful!) conclusion to my saga!

My appointment was scheduled for 9.45am today, but I didn't get seen until around noon. It was a long wait, but worth it!

My landlady's power of attorney turned up to represent her.

It was all over very quickly - the judge went over the paperwork, the PoA tried to argue points, but it all went in my favour! The landlady has to renew my contract on the same terms for another year, and they have to deduct the court fees from the cost of the rent.

So, she wanted to raise the rent by 3000dhs... now she's going to be getting nearly 3000dhs less because she wouldn't settle outside of the Rent Committee.

Yay! Very happy news.

And it was a wonderfully smooth process from start to finish. I'd definitely recommend that anyone who's having landlord troubles visit - it's worth it, even just for the advice they can give you.
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I have a (hopeful!) conclusion to my saga!

My appointment was scheduled for 9.45am today, but I didn't get seen until around noon. It was a long wait, but worth it!

My landlady's power of attorney turned up to represent her.

It was all over very quickly - the judge went over the paperwork, the PoA tried to argue points, but it all went in my favour! The landlady has to renew my contract on the same terms for another year, and they have to deduct the court fees from the cost of the rent.

So, she wanted to raise the rent by 3000dhs... now she's going to be getting nearly 3000dhs less because she wouldn't settle outside of the Rent Committee.

Yay! Very happy news.

And it was a wonderfully smooth process from start to finish. I'd definitely recommend that anyone who's having landlord troubles visit - it's worth it, even just for the advice they can give you.
thanks for keeping us updated throughout the process. it's great information for others who may end up going through the same thing!
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I have a (hopeful!) conclusion to my saga!

My appointment was scheduled for 9.45am today, but I didn't get seen until around noon. It was a long wait, but worth it!

My landlady's power of attorney turned up to represent her.

It was all over very quickly - the judge went over the paperwork, the PoA tried to argue points, but it all went in my favour! The landlady has to renew my contract on the same terms for another year, and they have to deduct the court fees from the cost of the rent.

So, she wanted to raise the rent by 3000dhs... now she's going to be getting nearly 3000dhs less because she wouldn't settle outside of the Rent Committee.

Yay! Very happy news.

And it was a wonderfully smooth process from start to finish. I'd definitely recommend that anyone who's having landlord troubles visit - it's worth it, even just for the advice they can give you.
Yay that's great news

Question, was your previous contract registered with Ejari?

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I have a (hopeful!) conclusion to my saga!

My appointment was scheduled for 9.45am today, but I didn't get seen until around noon. It was a long wait, but worth it!

My landlady's power of attorney turned up to represent her.

It was all over very quickly - the judge went over the paperwork, the PoA tried to argue points, but it all went in my favour! The landlady has to renew my contract on the same terms for another year, and they have to deduct the court fees from the cost of the rent.

So, she wanted to raise the rent by 3000dhs... now she's going to be getting nearly 3000dhs less because she wouldn't settle outside of the Rent Committee.

Yay! Very happy news.

And it was a wonderfully smooth process from start to finish. I'd definitely recommend that anyone who's having landlord troubles visit - it's worth it, even just for the advice they can give you.
Great news, congratulations!!!

Thank you for posting the entire process with so much detailed information on the forum.

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Yay that's great news

Question, was your previous contract registered with Ejari?
Not that I'm aware of, nope - I didn't register it, but the agent may have? No-one at the Rent Committee mentioned Ejari throughout the process.


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Great news, congratulations!!!

Thank you for posting the entire process with so much detailed information on the forum.
You're welcome! I had a couple of hiccups along the way as the thread says, so hopefully this will help other people get things done smoothly .

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the PoA tried to argue points.
Great news! Congrats! Hope more people will go this route and change the poor notion of landlords having the upper hand in this country.

Do you by any chance remember what points the PoA tried to argue? Just a curiosity.

And was the preceding in English or Arabic?

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Great news! Congrats! Hope more people will go this route and change the poor notion of landlords having the upper hand in this country.

Do you by any chance remember what points the PoA tried to argue? Just a curiosity.

And was the preceding in English or Arabic?
It was mixed - I was spoken to in English, the PoA was spoken to in Arabic; he requested that we speak English for my sake, but there was still a lot of Arabic spoken.

The PoA first said that my email from the agent first mentioning the request rent rise was invalid, because the agent wasn't authorised to negotiate on behalf of the landlady - except it was there in black and white, in two emails, saying that he'd spoken to the landlady and that was what she wanted.

The second point he tried to raise was that the contract I had signed says renewal of the contract is at the owner's discretion, and that the owner can give three months' notice before the end of the contract if she doesn't wish to renew. The answer to both of those points was in Arabic, but from the tone of voice and his reaction they were to tell him that those points were invalid.

Everything else he argued about was in Arabic; just from body language and tone of voice, two guys from the Rent Committee were saying that whatever he was asking/arguing for was wrong.

The PoA was definitely shocked when the decision was made in my favour!

Unrelated to the above, but linked to the proceeding: one thing that I found slightly confusing was the set-up of the thing. We were in what looked like a conference room, with a meeting happening at the conference table (and lots of shouting by the group of guys sat around it), while we were dealt with at a small desk beside the conference table. It was two different meetings happening at the same time, and while we had one dedicated guy sorting our thing out, a couple of guys from the main conference table kept sharing their opinion, too. Very strange!
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Congrats Silver! Great to know that you're sorted.

As for myself, I've had a rather hectic past couple days going back and forth to the rent committee in order to clear up some missing documents:

1. Original tenancy contract: For some reason, I don't have the original. I'm pretty sure when I first got the contract last year, the agent asked me if I wanted it or if he should hold on to it. Me being gullible, I told him he'll keep it safe better than me. (Never do that! Always keep your original contract. I learned the hard way). Anyhow, the rent committee chap was nice and looked over the title deed etc to verify that the contract copy I had was indeed the original. He told me to add a line in my Claim Form saying that I had proved this is the original contract.

2. Minor changes in claim form: Since my landlord's address was in Pakistan, he told me to change that to our agent's Dubai address and contact number instead. Also the translation service had slightly confused the last two sections (Details of Case, and Demands). Told me to write "Want to renew contract on same terms. Want landlord to reimburse me all relevant expenses in filing this claim", in the demands (last) section.

3. Letter from Bank: The fellow said that copy of my rent cheque + bank statement showing those funds had been deducted from my account are not enough. He said to get my bank to issue me a letter saying that the specific cheque (ref number) issued in person's name (landlord) was issued by the bank on the stated date. I don't know why the rent committee needs a letter instead of the bank statement, but I had to go do it. The bank was so confused and said it was not their policy, but a bit of persuasion and speaking to the manager finally sorted me out.

That's about it. I finally have all my required documents (fingers crossed). I'll be heading to the rent committee tomorrow, hopefully for the last time (excluding the hearing of course).

And SilverClover is definitely right about getting there earlier. On Sunday I reached them at around 11 AM due to a delay from the translation service, and I waited for over 2 hours at least! I actually had time to nip out and head a couple of metro stations away to get some work done and nip back in time for my call, haha. Yesterday I reached at 9 AM and was called in about 30 minutes. So tomorrow, I plan on heading there at 8:30, lol. Wish me luck!

If everything goes well, I'll give a small update tomorrow.

As Silver said, if any of you are being harassed by your landlord and could use some guidance on your rights as a tenant, it wouldn't hurt to head down and visit the rent committee, or at the least give RERA a call at their helpline (600555556).

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fudzzz, please update us when you can.

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