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Old 23rd February 2018, 07:36 PM
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Hi Folk's,

After being offered new job's both my wife and I have decided to make the move from sunny Glasgow to Dubai.

In the last couple of week's we have started the process of sending our new employers the required info to get the ball rolling on our visa applications (passport info, passport pics etc.) This process now also includes the small hurdle of our documents attested (certificate of good conduct and education certificate) which we understand is now a legal requirement introduced to the UAE on the 4th of Feb 2018.

My post will have information some folk will find useful and I am also looking to obtain some advice if at all possible.

A good conduct certificate is basically an official document showing the authorities in Dubai that your of good standing and basically do not have any major convictions and lets them know a little more about the person they are about to let into their country, which I am surprised wasn't checked before.

Now in the UK you cant just walk into a police station and obtain these. If you live in England and Wales you can request these from ACRO ( search ACRO in google, cant post the link)



Or if you live in Scotland:

(search disclosure Scotland cant post the link)

I obtained a basic disclosure in Scotland which cost £25 and can take up to 14 working days to arrive by post. I got mine back in 4 working days. Happy days....or so I thought and this is where I am looking for some advice, let me set the scene.

In March 2015 and with the countdown to my wedding in June well and truly on I trudged onto a bus with 48 lads from Glasgow bound for Newcastle on my stag do. nothing could go wrong with that scenario at all, said not a single person!

After a drunken run in with a bouncer after being called a 'scotch w*nk*r' (which may very well be true its just not nice hearing it from a stranger ) an argument ensued resulting in me and a couple of the boys being arrested and charged with a public order offence. Idiots.

We were released the next morning and asked to appear back in Newcastle for court 8 days before the wedding and having never been in trouble with the police before I thought I was going to be given some hard time in an English prison and miss my wedding, no such luck. I was given a slap on the wrist and a fine and sent back to Scotland with my tail between my legs and a lesson well and truly learned.

Now, under the rehab of offenders act 1974 this fine would be 'spent' after 1 year given the minor nature of the incident. Should I be lucky enough to live in England and Wales this would not appear on my record however, Scotland in their wisdom apply scots law to my English charge and keep it on file for 5 years.

I have now informed my new employer who are absolutely fine with the explanation I have given them much to my embarrassment but does anyone Know how likely this is to effect my visa application? Still a grey area for most it would appear from reading the forum but previous to this rule change has anyone had any difficult experiences with obtaining their working visa they could share?

Finally, once you have your police certificate back you will be required to get this and your education certificate attested. I was told by my employer to send the original docs to this company:

(good search vital certificates UK cant post the link)

They gave me a quote of £360 for 14 working day service or £538 service. They basically get a solicitor in the UK to check your docs are ok, stamped by the UAE embassy in the UK and will ship them to you/your employer ready for your visa application.

A long first post, hopefully the info I gave on the docs is useful and hopefully someone could give me a basic insight to the visa application process and how you found it
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Hi,
Welcome to the forum.
Thanks for sharing your journey in obtaining your good conduct certificate.
A few points.
Firstly, the good conduct system only came in on 4th February- so it’s too early to tell whether your previous conviction is going to affect your visa.
My gut feeling is that you may not get a visa. Dubai does not like people getting drunk and fighting - so they wont look kindly to this type of conviction. There are always more people looking for jobs in Dubai than there are jobs available - so the authorities would have no problem in rejecting your visa application if they set the bar high. The system is new - so we don’t yet know what level they have set for acceptance of previous convictions.
Regarding attestation - you need to get your degree certificate, marriage certificate and kids birth certificates attested in the UK. The good conduct certificate can either be attested in the UK or that can be done in Dubai. In view of your record - it would be better to do yours in the UK - so that you don’t waste time and money coming to Dubai with the uncertainty over your work visa.
Good luck - and please let us know how you get on!
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Hey Mickey. A Glaswegian fighting in Newcastle? Not exactly a new thing that is it?

Only an Aberdonian joke. Sorry!

Are you coming to work for a company in a Free Zone? If so, it’s my belief you don’t need a good conduct certificate. I’ve just joined a DMCC business and don’t need one.

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Are you coming to work for a company in a Free Zone? If so, itís my belief you donít need a good conduct certificate. Iíve just joined a DMCC business and donít need one.
Hi,
I don't think you are correct.
I suspect the reason that you did not require a good conduct certificate is because your employer started your visa process before 4th February - not because you are working in a freezone company.
I understand that from 4th February all new employment visas require the good conduct certificate for any of the Emirates and any type of company - mainland or freezone, government or private.
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An Aberdonian with a sense of humour...who would have thought it

Thanks for your reply guys. I can confirm that since the 4th of Feb 2018 it is a legal requirement for the whole of the UAE to obtain a good conduct/police cert from your home country ( or country you have resided in the last 5 years ).

In terms of my charge it shows on the disclosure as 'threatening and abusive behaviour with fear of provocation'. It looks a lot worse than it actually is. I am 5ft 10 and built like the side of a Rizla paper, it wouldn't have been a great move from me to go toe to toe with any bouncer. No fighting took place and the charge itself doesn't show alcohol was involved.

Its still a very grey area and I am more than happy to share me experience. I have attempted to give the UAE consulate a call in London but with a 2 hour window (1:30pm to 3:30pm) were the take calls in respects to visa's that route proved difficult.
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Steve, I should also note that attestation, which I done through the company Vital certificates based in Yorkshire, complete all the document checks and get the necessary stamps done in the UK with complete ease. In fact mine are complete and making their way to my employer in Dubai now which is part of the service they conduct.

A disclosure Scotland cert will only show unspent convictions were as an ACRO cert will show everything from unspent, spent and cautions. After speaking with a lady at Vital she informed me that she has found many people with at least one or a few things on their record this month asking the same question 'will my visa be accepted'. She didn't know but she could confirm she has not had a single problem in getting the docs cleared at the solicitors and UAE embassy in the UK.

After all, they are just confirming that the docs are legit. Its all down to the visa department in Dubai and how they view it.

My line of thinking is was the visa office in Dubai strict pre this rule introduction on other matters. If I was to believe everything the media was telling me about law and order in Dubai the place would be empty.

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Are you coming to work for a company in a Free Zone? If so, it’s my belief you don’t need a good conduct certificate. I’ve just joined a DMCC business and don’t need one.
Hi,
I stand corrected - I just heard that there is a temporary exemption for foreign nationals from producing a good conduct certificate if they are going to work in one of the Dubai freezones!
No idea how long this exemption will last!
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I stand corrected - I just heard that there is a temporary exemption for foreign nationals from producing a good conduct certificate if they are going to work in one of the Dubai freezones!
No idea how long this exemption will last!
Cheers
Steve
Hi Steve,

Could you confirm if the exemption in Dubai on Free Zone visas is still active. My employer is based out of DAFZA and it might be under exemption.

The visa agency, however, have listed the certificate as a requirement to start the process. I have started the process but there seems to be some confusion in India on how to obtain this certificate.

I understand from your posts that you might be working in recruitment consulting and was hoping if you have managed a hiring from India recently and ,if yes, then whether the certificate issued was from the regional passport offices in India. I understand its a bit odd question considering the specific nature but there really is confusion here.

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Hi Steve,

Could you confirm if the exemption in Dubai on Free Zone visas is still active. My employer is based out of DAFZA and it might be under exemption.

The visa agency, however, have listed the certificate as a requirement to start the process. I have started the process but there seems to be some confusion in India on how to obtain this certificate.

I understand from your posts that you might be working in recruitment consulting and was hoping if you have managed a hiring from India recently and ,if yes, then whether the certificate issued was from the regional passport offices in India. I understand its a bit odd question considering the specific nature but there really is confusion here.
Hi,
No - I donít work in recruitment!
As far as I know, the Dubai freezone exemption is still in force - but that doesnít mean that either the recruiter or your future employer knows about this.
Here is an article from Gulf news that explains how to get the good conduct certificate from each country:-
How to apply for a Good Conduct Certificate | GulfNews.com
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