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mavericksam 14th June 2012 04:21 PM

The Emirates / DNATA jobs thread
 
Hi All,

This is my first post here at expatforums. Thanks for this opportunity.

I am looking forward to relocate to UAE. Recently, I have been offered a job with Emirates/Dnata Operations for a Grade 08 position. I have been given some of the best benefits I could ask for. However, my base salary is yet to be discussed!

My question is,
1. What kind of Base salary can I ask for? provided the benefits include housing, travel allowance, medical insurance for family , education allowance, annual airfare for family, profit sharing, concessional tickets etc.

2. what is it like working for Dnata? Is the environment healthy there? I dont want to leave one not-so impressive place to another not-so impressive place. Hence.

3. Recruitment process?

Thanks in advance for the help. I have read all previous posts related to emirates/dnata. but they haven't helped much, so this post comes.

Toon 14th June 2012 04:47 PM

Well if you've been offered the job you should know about the recruitment process.

If it is at all possible you should go for a greade 9, the difference is immense (business class, school fees and a lot more money).

I was a grade 9 in 2005 and my package was around 35k if I recall, that included 10k for housing.

Profit sharing was x number of weeks, BUT you had to be employed for a full calender year on (i think) 1 July to get it, so if you start on 2 July this year you wont get it until August 2014.

If I recall housing for a grade 9 is now 200k/year, but they do like it if you stay in their apartments instead.

I know that grade 8-9 is a massive jump, and around a third more money.

What's it like to work there? Frustrating, too many ivory castles being built.

mavericksam 14th June 2012 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toon (Post 812864)
Well if you've been offered the job you should know about the recruitment process.

If it is at all possible you should go for a greade 9, the difference is immense (business class, school fees and a lot more money).

I was a grade 9 in 2005 and my package was around 35k if I recall, that included 10k for housing.

Profit sharing was x number of weeks, BUT you had to be employed for a full calender year on (i think) 1 July to get it, so if you start on 2 July this year you wont get it until August 2014.

If I recall housing for a grade 9 is now 200k/year, but they do like it if you stay in their apartments instead.

I know that grade 8-9 is a massive jump, and around a third more money.

What's it like to work there? Frustrating, too many ivory castles being built.


Thanks so much Toon for the info provided.

I have read on other forums also that instead of a Grade 8, I should ask for a Grade 9. I find it very weird to ask to upgrade even before joining and performing. What I mean is, is it normal to generally ask for an up-Grade!?

I do have Housing or housing allowance 7500AED /month, and again there seems to be a huge difference between a 200K/year (approx 16K/month) for Grade 9 and grade 8.

Too many ivory castles is not a very good thing. However, I have heard from many people that emirates is one of the best airlines to work with! I do get to read quite contrasting opinions from various forums. So, I am assuming that the situation may not be too good nor too bad!

Thanks once again.

Toon 14th June 2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mavericksam (Post 813109)
Thanks so much Toon for the info provided.

I have read on other forums also that instead of a Grade 8, I should ask for a Grade 9. I find it very weird to ask to upgrade even before joining and performing. What I mean is, is it normal to generally ask for an up-Grade!?

I do have Housing or housing allowance 7500AED /month, and again there seems to be a huge difference between a 200K/year (approx 16K/month) for Grade 9 and grade 8.

Too many ivory castles is not a very good thing. However, I have heard from many people that emirates is one of the best airlines to work with! I do get to read quite contrasting opinions from various forums. So, I am assuming that the situation may not be too good nor too bad!

Thanks once again.

As a grade 9 it's good, but not as a grade 8.

There is also a span of basics in each job, from 60 - 140% of "norm", I would suggest you ask what that is, I did and they increased my salary from 75% or so, to around 130%, it basically doubled.

Get a grade 9, they HATE giving promotions....

basc 15th June 2012 05:24 AM

It's a 155k accommodation allowance for a Grade 9. And the salary bands are +/- 100% now.

What is the job title you have been offered? Then I can tell you what the grade 9 equivalent is.

mavericksam 15th June 2012 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basc (Post 813342)
It's a 155k accommodation allowance for a Grade 9. And the salary bands are +/- 100% now.

What is the job title you have been offered? Then I can tell you what the grade 9 equivalent is.

Thanks basc for the info.

All this sounds very unusual. So, I see that a Grade 9 is an obviously better option than settling/accepting a Grade 8.

I don't know whether its ok/safe/normal to disclose the job title here, but the job is that of a 'Controller' in their Business Support function. If that can help?

Thanks in advance.

basc 15th June 2012 08:42 AM

A BSG Controller (grade 8) reports into a BSG Manager (grade 9). So unless you kill off your hiring manager to free up his position, you can't negotiate to be a 9.

But, and I am sorry to say, as you're Indian I think it would be highly unlikely that you would be hired directly as a 9 - unless you have extensive Western experience.

mavericksam 15th June 2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basc (Post 813451)
A BSG Controller (grade 8) reports into a BSG Manager (grade 9). So unless you kill off your hiring manager to free up his position, you can't negotiate to be a 9.

But, and I am sorry to say, as you're Indian I think it would be highly unlikely that you would be hired directly as a 9 - unless you have extensive Western experience.

basc, that was mean!! :boxing::)

What's it got to do with being Indian? Irrespective of nationality, if someone is capable, he/she is fit for the position and title and grade! While, I do agree, this kind of racist measure exists in the middle east, yet that does not completely marginalize someone's expertise, whether Indian or western.

I see that you changed your 'originally from' from Ireland to UAE. :) Any reasons for that??

Thanks anyway for all the info. Greatly appreciated. These insights will definitely help me during my next interaction with the recruiters.

basc 15th June 2012 09:05 AM

It's not mean on my part, it's a universally known truth about the UAE. As you're Indian you'll be offered lower-level jobs - for no other reason than your nationality.

I personally would never recommend any of my Indian friends to work in the UAE because of that fact. They'd be better off in Europe or the US.

Toon 15th June 2012 09:13 AM

^^^^^^^

sad but true.


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