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Hi all,

Soon hoping to come to cyprus, but whats holding me up is concern for my small 13kg dog.

Im loathed to give her the rabies shot as part of the pet passport, its a dangerous vaccine and can have many health implications, especially for smaller dogs ( they get the same dose of the vaccine as much bigger dogs, and adverse reactions are common in small dogs, and the vaccine has even been implicated in causing many cancers, sometimes years later ).
Also, the last time i had a dog ( a medium sized dog ) vaccinated for rabies, all her exposed skin went red and caused her much discomfort for the rest of her shortened life, so i have first hand experience of the dangers of this vaccine.

I dont intend to come back to the uk, and if i fly direct from the uk to cyprus with my dog i dont see why i should risk the rabies vaccine, the uk is rabies free, and according to defra, cyprus is a non risk rabies country too.

Ive been told by vetinary services in nicosia and the vet on duty at larnaca airport that cyrus operates a 6 month home quarantine scheme wherebye i can bring my dog direct by air from the uk and will be allowed to take her to a cyprus house or flat and keep her indoors for 6 months, with occasional visits from the authoritys to check on her.
this i prefer to the horrible rabies vaccination.

The problem is i think cannot get this in writing ?,
and worst case scenario if i turn up at larnaca airport with my unvaccinated dog ( but with all other parts of the pet passport intact ), then i am the mercy of the vet on duty, and my dog could be taken off me.
I really do not want to risk my dog, but i will not go to cyp[rus without her.

Anyone any thoughts on this, any input much appreciated, cheers

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I'm not sure you can leave the UK unless your dog has been vaccinated - could be wrong but worth checking with the UK authorities first.

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No passport, no entry, indeed, no passport no exit....it was checked at numerous points during the process of bringing our pet direct from UK to Cyprus.
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Hi all,

Soon hoping to come to cyprus, but whats holding me up is concern for my small 13kg dog.

Im loathed to give her the rabies shot as part of the pet passport, its a dangerous vaccine and can have many health implications, especially for smaller dogs ( they get the same dose of the vaccine as much bigger dogs, and adverse reactions are common in small dogs, and the vaccine has even been implicated in causing many cancers, sometimes years later ).
Also, the last time i had a dog ( a medium sized dog ) vaccinated for rabies, all her exposed skin went red and caused her much discomfort for the rest of her shortened life, so i have first hand experience of the dangers of this vaccine.

I dont intend to come back to the uk, and if i fly direct from the uk to cyprus with my dog i dont see why i should risk the rabies vaccine, the uk is rabies free, and according to defra, cyprus is a non risk rabies country too.

Ive been told by vetinary services in nicosia and the vet on duty at larnaca airport that cyrus operates a 6 month home quarantine scheme wherebye i can bring my dog direct by air from the uk and will be allowed to take her to a cyprus house or flat and keep her indoors for 6 months, with occasional visits from the authoritys to check on her.
this i prefer to the horrible rabies vaccination.

The problem is i think cannot get this in writing ?,
and worst case scenario if i turn up at larnaca airport with my unvaccinated dog ( but with all other parts of the pet passport intact ), then i am the mercy of the vet on duty, and my dog could be taken off me.
I really do not want to risk my dog, but i will not go to cyp[rus without her.

Anyone any thoughts on this, any input much appreciated, cheers
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so, even if cyprus did operate the 6 month home quarantine scheme, which ive been told it does, and even if got it in writing,
i would not be able to board a plane in the uk without the rabies shot ?

ive tried to contact airlines in the uk with pet transportation questions, but they can never be contacted by phone.

as re the reply that supports the draconian leglisation re pet passports, the whole eu wide scheme is just an unnecessary layer of bureaucracy and economic activity brought in by brainless politicians at the behest of vets who make vast sums from unnecessary vaccinations, putting the health of many pets at risk.

the rabies vaccine is a risky one, do your own research, and you find much literature about the dangers of this vaccine, especially on smaller pets.

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so, even if cyprus did operate the 6 month home quarantine scheme, which ive been told it does, and even if got it in writing,
i would not be able to board a plane in the uk without the rabies shot ?

ive tried to contact airlines in the uk with pet transportation questions, but they can never be contacted by phone.

as re the reply that supports the draconian leglisation re pet passports, the whole eu wide scheme is just an unnecessary layer of bureaucracy and economic activity brought in by brainless politicians at the behest of vets who make vast sums from unnecessary vaccinations, putting the health of many pets at risk.

the rabies vaccine is a risky one, do your own research, and you find much literature about the dangers of this vaccine, especially on smaller pets.
Hi dippydog,

Not sure which airlines you've tried, but I managed to speak to Monarch, Aegean, and BA when I was arranging my move to Cyprus, and they all confirmed that a dog cannot board a flight out of the UK without a valid pet passport, which is predicated upon the rabies vaccination.

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so, even if cyprus did operate the 6 month home quarantine scheme, which ive been told it does, and even if got it in writing,
i would not be able to board a plane in the uk without the rabies shot ?

ive tried to contact airlines in the uk with pet transportation questions, but they can never be contacted by phone.

as re the reply that supports the draconian leglisation re pet passports, the whole eu wide scheme is just an unnecessary layer of bureaucracy and economic activity brought in by brainless politicians at the behest of vets who make vast sums from unnecessary vaccinations, putting the health of many pets at risk.

the rabies vaccine is a risky one, do your own research, and you find much literature about the dangers of this vaccine, especially on smaller pets.
I agree with you about the vaccinations can be risky, but that goes for all of them. Thats why our dog has only got vaccinated as a puppy and now once per year we do a titer-test to see so antibodies it high enough.
Same goes for commercial dog food that give a whole bunch of dangers. Cancer etc. So we feed home-made raw food.


But rabies is a dangerous thing. Cyprus is one of very few rabies-free countries in the world and the only one in Europe that can be used as quarantine for pet exports to Australia. I would like it to continue to be that way. The risks for the dog is still minimal.

Home quarantine would not work. Scrupulous people would agree to quarantine the imports, but really don't bother. The risk is way to big
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I for one would hate to see rabies arrive on this island putting not only all dogs at risk but also humans. Whatever it takes to keep Cyprus rabies free is worth any small risk to an individual animal from the inoculation.

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so, even if cyprus did operate the 6 month home quarantine scheme, which ive been told it does, and even if got it in writing,
i would not be able to board a plane in the uk without the rabies shot ?

ive tried to contact airlines in the uk with pet transportation questions, but they can never be contacted by phone.

as re the reply that supports the draconian leglisation re pet passports, the whole eu wide scheme is just an unnecessary layer of bureaucracy and economic activity brought in by brainless politicians at the behest of vets who make vast sums from unnecessary vaccinations, putting the health of many pets at risk.

the rabies vaccine is a risky one, do your own research, and you find much literature about the dangers of this vaccine, especially on smaller pets.
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yes, i agree, rabies would be bad for cyprus ( the island already has a terrible reputation when it comes to cruelty to animals )

however, the overall point is being overlooked---

why should i risk my dogs health to take her direct from one rabies free country to another rabies free country ?

the cyprus home quarentine option does exist, at least in theory, im trying to find out HOW I GET TO UTILIZE IT

when i look at my happy healthy well behaved small dog, who never leaves my side, and i then contemplate possibly destroying her health by pumping the rotten rabies vaccine ( with its mercury, heavy metals and all manner of toxic filth contained therein ) into her, i feel very guilty, no, i do not want to risk it.

my OP was to ask about the cyprus home quarantine legislation, not to debate whether rabies is evil or not, of course it is, but only a brainwashed fool would argue that the current pet passport legislation is fair and just, its a rediculous blanket law that takes no account of the health of peoples precious pets and from what country they are travelling to/from.

UK = RABIES FREE
cyprus = RABIES FREE
travel by approved airline non stop to cyprus from uk with a well behaved beautifull small dog
whats the problem ?

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