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Hi have you decided to move yet? We are in the process and it would be great to hear from someone else that is also doing the same! This thread is old so i thought i'd just check first to see if you are still going
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I was just wondering if you ever made the move to NZ ? I'm living here in Dublin and I'm seriously considering making the move myself with things the way they are here in Ireland.
If anyone has any information actually it would of great help.

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Hi everyone, found this thread after a nice google search. I recently moved to Auckland from the US and have only been here for a few days. I'm here with a friend of mine, and we are just starting to get up and running, finding an apartment, etc. I am curious as to everyone's situation here. We will be living in the CBD, but it seems to me that the apartments here are very small for what you pay for (location, location, location?). I'm just wondering if anyone had any advice, or places to go, pubs that you can't miss, etc. Also, can someone explain to me what the deal is with public transportation? From what I've seen, there only seems to be a few bus routes.. Are there any other ways to get around?

My first impression though, is that there are many jobs to be had here in Auckland. Especially in the IT sector, and the food in general is quite good. Cost of living seems to be very manageable and cheap (coming from a US perspective).

Also, do most people live in the suburbs? And if so, do they all work in the CBD, or are there jobs scattered all around the place?

Anyways, just feeling a bit apprehensive (as its a big change!) Any help would be more than welcome!

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Hello everyone. Myself and my family are thinking of emigrating to New Zealand so it is very early days in the process but would like to hear what people think of the cost of living out there as that is a big factor in us moving out there. Cost of diesel here currently 1.28 at some petrol stations!!!! Home sickness is also a big concern although I appreciate something most people must go through so any suggestions, experiences I would love to hear about. Any stories and experiences of emigrating to NZ in general would be very helpful. Many thanks in advance everyone.
You've had a couple of good answers to your question so I won't go into the nuts and bolts of it all but all I can say is be clear why you want to leave the UK for NZ. What is attracting you? The grass is not always greener and if you have kids at school be sure of why you want to uproot them. Missing family can be huge, I've come here as both my parents passed away and wanted to give my daughter an opportunity to get to know her grandparents in NZ and for my partner to spend time with his parents as he lived in the UK for 18 years. Whilst NZ is a lovely place and if it weren't to move here for family I wouldn't have done it, as I have given up the closeness of my family. I know I will settle here but question if it was worth the personal sacrifice. We live in a lovely area in NZ but we also lived in a lovely area in UK. Just be clear about your reasons for moving. Good luck.

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You've had a couple of good answers to your question so I won't go into the nuts and bolts of it all but all I can say is be clear why you want to leave the UK for NZ. What is attracting you? The grass is not always greener and if you have kids at school be sure of why you want to uproot them. Missing family can be huge, I've come here as both my parents passed away and wanted to give my daughter an opportunity to get to know her grandparents in NZ and for my partner to spend time with his parents as he lived in the UK for 18 years. Whilst NZ is a lovely place and if it weren't to move here for family I wouldn't have done it, as I have given up the closeness of my family. I know I will settle here but question if it was worth the personal sacrifice. We live in a lovely area in NZ but we also lived in a lovely area in UK. Just be clear about your reasons for moving. Good luck.
We moved to NZ from the UK four years ago with our two children then aged 9 and 11 . We had never been to the country before and knew nobody here. My husband and boys have settled really well and I've made lots of lovely friends (almost all new immigrants themselves ) , but can't settle here . I feel I belong in England and can't shake off that feeling , even after four years , buying a house ; getting the dog ; making friends etc. Will this feeling ever go ?


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We moved to NZ from the UK four years ago with our two children then aged 9 and 11 . We had never been to the country before and knew nobody here. My husband and boys have settled really well and I've made lots of lovely friends (almost all new immigrants themselves ) , but can't settle here . I feel I belong in England and can't shake off that feeling , even after four years , buying a house ; getting the dog ; making friends etc. Will this feeling ever go ?
to be honest, i'm feeling the same thing myself - although i've had a tough time finding friend here. I can't quite seem to figure out where to meet people. In regards to that feeling, to be honest, i have no idea. I think any time you spend a significant portion of your life you will always have fond memories of. Have you been back to the UK since? Perhaps you need a reminder of why you left in the first place?

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We moved to NZ from the UK four years ago with our two children then aged 9 and 11 . We had never been to the country before and knew nobody here. My husband and boys have settled really well and I've made lots of lovely friends (almost all new immigrants themselves ) , but can't settle here . I feel I belong in England and can't shake off that feeling , even after four years , buying a house ; getting the dog ; making friends etc. Will this feeling ever go ?
Hi there - it's not nice to have that feeling and maybe after more time you might feel differently. I was always told that you have to give it three years to properly settle and I do agree with that, as I am in a totally different place than even a year ago. But, you can take the girl out of England but you can't take England out of the girl! and perhaps that's it, you will always see the UK as home and that's okay.

It would be a good idea to go back for a visit. I haven't been back yet myself, I might go next year. My husband always says that if I said I wanted to go back, he would send me back to visit! and see how that makes me feel first. Some people never settle and I suppose it depends on the person - I heard of someone who had been here for ten years and still doesn't feel at home. Family is a huge deal and as the years go on and I think how long I haven't seen loved ones for it's a wrench, but I just have to put it to one side and know there is technology these days and that I will see them again one day. Ask yourself how much you would miss NZ if you moved back? I've asked this myself - if I went back I know I would miss NZ, So at the moment I think I would be swapping one longing for another.

It is hard though, hang in there!

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Hi there - it's not nice to have that feeling and maybe after more time you might feel differently. I was always told that you have to give it three years to properly settle and I do agree with that, as I am in a totally different place than even a year ago. But, you can take the girl out of England but you can't take England out of the girl! and perhaps that's it, you will always see the UK as home and that's okay.

It would be a good idea to go back for a visit. I haven't been back yet myself, I might go next year. My husband always says that if I said I wanted to go back, he would send me back to visit! and see how that makes me feel first. Some people never settle and I suppose it depends on the person - I heard of someone who had been here for ten years and still doesn't feel at home. Family is a huge deal and as the years go on and I think how long I haven't seen loved ones for it's a wrench, but I just have to put it to one side and know there is technology these days and that I will see them again one day. Ask yourself how much you would miss NZ if you moved back? I've asked this myself - if I went back I know I would miss NZ, So at the moment I think I would be swapping one longing for another.





It is hard though, hang in there!

Good luck!
Thanks so much for sharing your experience . I know that if I moved back to the UK I would miss some aspects of living in NZ . However, after four years here and believing that it was being in NZ that was the problem , I've realised that it's more about NOT being in England and that they don't amount to the same thing ! I have been back to the UK twice , once after two and a half years and it confirmed my feeling of longing . Recently I went back by myself and just felt so "at home" . I can see that thee are pros and cons of living in both countries and that some people take longer than others to settle , but after four years I can't see how this feeling of wanting to go home will go .

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to be honest, i'm feeling the same thing myself - although i've had a tough time finding friend here. I can't quite seem to figure out where to meet people. In regards to that feeling, to be honest, i have no idea. I think any time you spend a significant portion of your life you will always have fond memories of. Have you been back to the UK since? Perhaps you need a reminder of why you left in the first place?
Fortunately , finding friends has not been a problem for me and I have heaps (and so many more than I have/had in the UK ). They are mainly (not by choice) ex pats too , so much in common.

We didn't leave the UK to get away or escape from anything , just fancied experiencing life in another country . We have found living in NZ a struggle financially which we hadn't anticipated .

As far as your desire to find friends , if you have kids , try chatting to other parents at school , or through work . I live in a place where there are lots of Brits , so meeting people with whom I had something in common instantly , was easy . It's not been so easy to meet and make Kiwi friends as I'd thought it would be , but that's Auckland for you .

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What I wrote about was the experience I had and it was all true, I did not embellish anything, what you have written about is the experience you have had or are now having and therefore one post cancels out the other. Not everything in this world is good for every person and there are some things you have stated that I certainly don't agree with either, but not much point in going back and forth.

You have obviously had a good experience, we had a bad one. However, I do think that anyone who is thinking of immigrating anywhere in the world should see both sides of the coin. If you are not a permanent resident and are on a work to residency visa, your prescriptions are not $1, they are more than this. Granted they are cheaper than the UK, but if you are on hormone replacement in the UK, everything you get on prescription is completely free. I am on thyroid pills and in the UK I don't pay for any prescriptions at all. I would rather pay for a prescription than a charge to see the doctor, because sometimes you need to see a doctor and you don't need a prescription, but you still have to pay. My Doctor charged $60 per visit because once again, I was on a work to residency visa, not a permanent resident. When we went to the doctor's we were told they had a waiting list for new patients, so it depends where you live I guess.
My own Doctor in New Zealand came from Holland, he left to go back because he couldn't handle the antiquated health system in NZ, his words, not mine.

Yeah, food, you can't buy pickled beetroot anywhere in NZ either. I wish I had lived wherever you lived because that's definitely the prices we paid. Where are you shopping? Pak 'n Save? The nearest Pak 'n Save to us was 30 miles away and with petrol at $1.29 a litre, it's not worth driving all that way to try and save a few bucks. If you found food prices comparitive with the UK, they are more expensive as the wages are one third less than the UK.

And I disagree with you regarding why people buy off Trade Me. Before I left 2 weeks ago, I had over 500 auctions on Trade Me as we sold everything before we left. The many people who came to my house to collect things told me that they buy from TM because they can't afford to buy from the stores, so I am only saying what I was told. You just said yourself why pay a fortune for something new when you can buy off TM at reasonable prices. (The key words here being; why pay a fortune for something new) Briscoes only has really good prices when they have sales on and I found Farmers to be expensive, I would say they are on a par with Debenhams in the UK.

How many houses have you lived in in NZ? We moved 3 times in 9 months because all the houses we rented were absolute c**p and we looked at a lot of houses and these were the best ones we could find. Of course if you are buying you can buy what you want, but the rental market houses SUCK.

I wasn't talking about a 1 year old vehicle, I was talking about a used vehicle 10 years old. How many Km's were on your 1998 vehicles when you bought them? $6,000 is a lot of money for a 1998 vehicle. My car in the UK cost me $800, it was a 1999 Toyota Corolla with only 60,000 miles on it, compared to what you get in NZ for the same price my experience has been that older cars in the UK are cheaper, my husband is a mechanic and most of the cheap cars on Trade Me are not even worth looking at. It appears you have had good fortune since moving to NZ, but I am telling my experiences because not everyone has good fortune and I was just trying to give some advice and tell people to take off their rose tinted spectacles before making such a huge move because as I said, what might be good for one person is not necessarily good for another and that's where people need to do lots of research.

Again, you are fortunate to only have a high electricity bill of $173, you have a heat pump and they are obviously more economical than oil filled radiators. My lowest summer bill was $150 and we are only two people.

Sorry, I totally disagree with you over the weather. I am not sure where you live, but we lived in the North Island in Levin, it rained constantly and was always overcast. I just had an email from my friend there and she said it has been minus 4 degrees there for the last 4 days, cold and overcast.

I never felt isolated in NZ, I too made many friends and on the whole I found Kiwi's a great bunch of friendly people. Yes, our experience was not a good one, but it wasn't because we didn't do anything to help ourselves, we were unfortunate to come across some unscrupulous people and we found to our chagrain that things are not always as good as some people make out them to be.

I absolutely know for sure that my life here in Canada will be 100% better than it ever was in NZ, I am a Canadian Citizen and have lived here for over 20 years and in all those years I have never had an experience as we had in NZ, I certainly have always been paid for the work I have done and not being paid happened to me twice, not once.

As I said before people need to do a lot of research before moving to another Country. You have posted your views and experiences and I have posted mine, they are completely opposite, but just because you found one thing to be true and I found another to be true, doesn't mean to say that you are right and I am wrong, or vice versa. People must make up their own minds, just make sure that you don't go in with those rose tinted spectacles on. You and I will never agree on NZ no matter how much we go back and forth. It may be right for you, but it was not right for us and it will be the same for maany other people too because if we all liked the same things in this world, we would all be in serious trouble.
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I cant tell you how pleased I was to see your negative comments about NZ !! I have been living here for 4 years and I have to say I absulotly HATE the place now!! So So very true all of your experiences and the Friendly Kiwis (still not found any ! Well a few from Wellington on hols here!) Unfortunatly, we did so lots of research before we moved to NZ but, it was givin by a kiwi who lived and still lives in London (because he tells us after being $10,000 richer he prefers UK to Nz !!) getting $$$$$$$$ commission for making us Brits beleive its the land of Milk and Honey !!! We are stuck here, we cannot afford to go home there are five of us, our older 2 children are in College (we have moved them 3 times to try and get some better education for them) my little one behaves like a kiwi lack of manners and NO empathy for life or people thank God he has us all to rely on as if he had to go back to kiwi parents after school he would defintly be the next generation adding to the crime rate here. My oldest child after being here 4 years still regrets comin we thought it was the settling in blues !! But no ! poor thing we all feel his pain now. He has become withdrawn, and it did not help when his teacher asked him to "stop asking questions you will not get a UK education here" VERY sad coming from an Expat himself obviously turned into a bad mannered kiwi with no empathy! I am pleased you had somewhere nice to go and you have the option of returning to UK . Unfortunatly we just have to stick it out ! The sad thing is my teenagers cant even find Sat jobs ?? what are there prospects after Uni (if they get there on the KIWI education) . Oh yes and its still raining ! Good Luck !! Did you bring children out here with you?

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I cant tell you how pleased I was to see your negative comments about NZ !! I have been living here for 4 years and I have to say I absulotly HATE the place now!! So So very true all of your experiences and the Friendly Kiwis (still not found any ! Well a few from Wellington on hols here!) Unfortunatly, we did so lots of research before we moved to NZ but, it was givin by a kiwi who lived and still lives in London (because he tells us after being $10,000 richer he prefers UK to Nz !!) getting $$$$$$$$ commission for making us Brits beleive its the land of Milk and Honey !!! We are stuck here, we cannot afford to go home there are five of us, our older 2 children are in College (we have moved them 3 times to try and get some better education for them) my little one behaves like a kiwi lack of manners and NO empathy for life or people thank God he has us all to rely on as if he had to go back to kiwi parents after school he would defintly be the next generation adding to the crime rate here. My oldest child after being here 4 years still regrets comin we thought it was the settling in blues !! But no ! poor thing we all feel his pain now. He has become withdrawn, and it did not help when his teacher asked him to "stop asking questions you will not get a UK education here" VERY sad coming from an Expat himself obviously turned into a bad mannered kiwi with no empathy! I am pleased you had somewhere nice to go and you have the option of returning to UK . Unfortunatly we just have to stick it out ! The sad thing is my teenagers cant even find Sat jobs ?? what are there prospects after Uni (if they get there on the KIWI education) . Oh yes and its still raining ! Good Luck !! Did you bring children out here with you?
Hi Maggie

So sorry to hear of your experience. Can understand the downer on the weather at the moment - a storm straight out of Antarctica is a tad on the cold side!!

Unfortunately I don't think it's just Kiwi teenagers that have a bit of a problem with attitude - many of my friends in the UK have teenagers with massive attitude problems too. I wish I'd brought my two little darlings out to NZ earlier to get them away from the UK bad education and attitudes! It all so depends on the area you end up in - and the school principals attitude can make a huge difference on the education your children you receive as well.

I can't say I've found the average Kiwi to be bad mannered - the odd one, definitely. But isn't that the same in any country? I think maybe they are now sensing your attitude to their country, so I expect that isn't helping matters.

PS I see your location says 'Pakistan' - is that right?

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