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Please read my case and help me out. I have tried to immigrate to Australia but unfortunately, i could not for several reasons.

1- ACS (Australian Computer Society) deducted the first 6 years of my work experience and hence, I had only 2 years work experience which I cannot claim any points for it. As a result, i could not claim 60 points.

2- In order to compensate this, the only solution is to get 7 in each band but unfortunately, i did not manage to get that and therefore, i thought of immigrating to New zealand as a substitute.

I got the following:

1- Bachelor of commerce
2- IELTS score overall 6.5
3- ACS report 263111 Computer Network and Systems Engineer
4- my age: 32
5- 8 years work experience in computer field but in ACS report states that I am qualified for the position starting from May 2011

My questions:
1- Do you think i am eligible to immigrate to New Zealand based on information above?
2- Do I have to assess my qualifications again with another assessment authority and get a code like I did with ACS or the one I got can be used?
3- Would new zealand deduct my work experience like ACS did?
4- Can I choose the title that I find myself suitable or New Zealand will give me the title based on what they see?

Please also note that I am qualified for ICT Security Specialist.

I am not sure of the process and where i should start. I am drained as I made a lot of efforts myself with Australia and I do not want to experience this again with New Zealand. I wish you guys could help me and steer me in the right direction.

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Did u try to NZ points calculator? it gives you a rough estimate on how many points u may earn in EOI.

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Try to calculate ur points so u can find out ur eligibility.

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Guys,

It is not about the points.. It is about my worries that raised in above questions.,,can you please have a look again

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Please read my case and help me out. I have tried to immigrate to Australia but unfortunately, i could not for several reasons. 1- ACS (Australian Computer Society) deducted the first 6 years of my work experience and hence, I had only 2 years work experience which I cannot claim any points for it. As a result, i could not claim 60 points. 2- In order to compensate this, the only solution is to get 7 in each band but unfortunately, i did not manage to get that and therefore, i thought of immigrating to New zealand as a substitute. I got the following: 1- Bachelor of commerce 2- IELTS score overall 6.5 3- ACS report 263111 Computer Network and Systems Engineer 4- my age: 32 5- 8 years work experience in computer field but in ACS report states that I am qualified for the position starting from May 2011 My questions: 1- Do you think i am eligible to immigrate to New Zealand based on information above? 2- Do I have to assess my qualifications again with another assessment authority and get a code like I did with ACS or the one I got can be used? 3- Would new zealand deduct my work experience like ACS did? 4- Can I choose the title that I find myself suitable or New Zealand will give me the title based on what they see? Please also note that I am qualified for ICT Security Specialist. I am not sure of the process and where i should start. I am drained as I made a lot of efforts myself with Australia and I do not want to experience this again with New Zealand. I wish you guys could help me and steer me in the right direction.
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1. Maybe yes but all depends on the occupation you claim to satisfy on the LTSSL and if you subsequently meet the specific requirements for that occupation exactly and the score you get on the EOI.
2. Yes you must have qualifications assessed by NZQA if your awarding university and/or actual qualification aren't on the exempt from assessment list. Immigration NZ do not recognize ACS.
If your qualification is exempt from assessment the list will show the equivalent level you can claim plus the associated points for the EOI.
If not exempt and you go for assessment, NZQA will not give you a code. They will just assess your qualification and state an equivalent level that you can claim in NZ which equates to points for the EOI.
3. Yes they could.
For arguments sake, if you meet the academic requirements for a particular occupation off the LTSSL, you will generally need to prove 3 years POST qualification experience and this is the only experience you are eligible for.
Yes you may have more experience in the job or skill before you were awarded the qualification, however I don't think you are eligible to claim these years ?
4. When applying for a visa to NZ it is entirely your responsibility to meet the requirements and be eligible. It is also your responsibility to complete the correct type of visa application, and complete it correctly. Immigration NZ will not choose anything for you. It is for you to make the decision on an occupation title etc, you to provide the evidence why you are making the claim and you to meet all the necessary deadlines etc.
You can of course ring them or email them for advice but generally they aren't too forthcoming or renowned for great customer service in this way.

Forget about Australia. That time is gone. You will need all your strength to get to NZ.

New Zealand isn't any easier to get to. In fact I was always led to believe NZ has always been more difficult to get into than Oz.

Take it easy. Check out the immigration website first. Do the research. See what visas you could be eligible for and go from there.

www.immigration.govt.nz

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1. Maybe yes but all depends on the occupation you claim to satisfy on the LTSSL and if you subsequently meet the specific requirements for that occupation exactly and the score you get on the EOI.
2. Yes you must have qualifications assessed by NZQA if your awarding university and/or actual qualification aren't on the exempt from assessment list. Immigration NZ do not recognize ACS.
If your qualification is exempt from assessment the list will show the equivalent level you can claim plus the associated points for the EOI.
If not exempt and you go for assessment, NZQA will not give you a code. They will just assess your qualification and state an equivalent level that you can claim in NZ which equates to points for the EOI.
3. Yes they could.
For arguments sake, if you meet the academic requirements for a particular occupation off the LTSSL, you will generally need to prove 3 years POST qualification experience and this is the only experience you are eligible for.
Yes you may have more experience in the job or skill before you were awarded the qualification, however I don't think you are eligible to claim these years ?
4. When applying for a visa to NZ it is entirely your responsibility to meet the requirements and be eligible. It is also your responsibility to complete the correct type of visa application, and complete it correctly. Immigration NZ will not choose anything for you. It is for you to make the decision on an occupation title etc, you to provide the evidence why you are making the claim and you to meet all the necessary deadlines etc.
You can of course ring them or email them for advice but generally they aren't too forthcoming or renowned for great customer service in this way.

Forget about Australia. That time is gone. You will need all your strength to get to NZ.

New Zealand isn't any easier to get to. In fact I was always led to believe NZ has always been more difficult to get into than Oz.

Take it easy. Check out the immigration website first. Do the research. See what visas you could be eligible for and go from there.

Immigration New Zealand

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Thanks escapedtonz for valuable info..If NQZA does not give me a title, who does?.. Which assessment authority do I have to refer to so that I can get a code where I see i am suitable at just like I did with ACS?

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For arguments sake, if you meet the academic requirements for a particular occupation off the LTSSL, you will generally need to prove 3 years POST qualification experience and this is the only experience you are eligible for.
Yes you may have more experience in the job or skill before you were awarded the qualification, however I don't think you are eligible to claim these years ?..
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I have checked the Long and Short skill shortage, and I think i do not meet the requirements because the condition is that I should have a bachelor of computer science and 3 years' relevant post qualification work experience.. I have more than 8 years work experience in IT field but i have a bachelor of commerce. Do you think I am still eligible but i just cannot claim points for short or long list skill shortage?

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Hi,

1. Maybe yes but all depends on the occupation you claim to satisfy on the LTSSL and if you subsequently meet the specific requirements for that occupation exactly and the score you get on the EOI.
2. Yes you must have qualifications assessed by NZQA if your awarding university and/or actual qualification aren't on the exempt from assessment list. Immigration NZ do not recognize ACS.
If your qualification is exempt from assessment the list will show the equivalent level you can claim plus the associated points for the EOI.
If not exempt and you go for assessment, NZQA will not give you a code. They will just assess your qualification and state an equivalent level that you can claim in NZ which equates to points for the EOI.
3. Yes they could.
For arguments sake, if you meet the academic requirements for a particular occupation off the LTSSL, you will generally need to prove 3 years POST qualification experience and this is the only experience you are eligible for.
Yes you may have more experience in the job or skill before you were awarded the qualification, however I don't think you are eligible to claim these years ?
4. When applying for a visa to NZ it is entirely your responsibility to meet the requirements and be eligible. It is also your responsibility to complete the correct type of visa application, and complete it correctly. Immigration NZ will not choose anything for you. It is for you to make the decision on an occupation title etc, you to provide the evidence why you are making the claim and you to meet all the necessary deadlines etc.
You can of course ring them or email them for advice but generally they aren't too forthcoming or renowned for great customer service in this way.

Forget about Australia. That time is gone. You will need all your strength to get to NZ.

New Zealand isn't any easier to get to. In fact I was always led to believe NZ has always been more difficult to get into than Oz.

Take it easy. Check out the immigration website first. Do the research. See what visas you could be eligible for and go from there.

Immigration New Zealand

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Hi escapedtonz,

I was also in the same boat. Tried all the efforts to get to 60 points for Australia but no luck.

I have 5 years of Experience and Master Degree ( Both Engg and Masters are there in the NZ exempted List) and my code software Engineer ( 261313) is absolute shortage skills list.

Age - 29 Years - 30 points

Work Exp - 5 Years - 15 points

Absolute Skills Shortage List - 10 points

Education - 60 points
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Total = 115 points

My questions are

1. How can i apply under this code ( 261313 - Software Engineer) for NZ ? For Aus ACS will give this code after assesment based on roles. What is the procedure for NZ ?

2. My partner holds Engineering degree in Information Technology. What are the criteria for getting points from her degree ?

3. Do i need to assess my partner qualifications also for claiming points ?

4. What documents are required for claiming points related to work Experience ?

Please advice.

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Hi escapedtonz, I was also in the same boat. Tried all the efforts to get to 60 points for Australia but no luck. I have 5 years of Experience and Master Degree ( Both Engg and Masters are there in the NZ exempted List) and my code software Engineer ( 261313) is absolute shortage skills list. Age - 29 Years - 30 points Work Exp - 5 Years - 15 points Absolute Skills Shortage List - 10 points Education - 60 points ======================================= Total = 115 points My questions are 1. How can i apply under this code ( 261313 - Software Engineer) for NZ ? For Aus ACS will give this code after assesment based on roles. What is the procedure for NZ ? 2. My partner holds Engineering degree in Information Technology. What are the criteria for getting points from her degree ? 3. Do i need to assess my partner qualifications also for claiming points ? 4. What documents are required for claiming points related to work Experience ? Please advice. Regards, Tan2Aus
First of all you are extremely unlikely to be selected from the pool with an EOI of 115 points.

1. You apply by submitting the relevant Expression Of Interest and by paying the appropriate fee.
To claim bonus points for having a qualification and work experience in your chosen skill shortage occupation you must meet the specific requirements as stated on the Long Term Skill Shortage List.
2. To claim partner points, she must meet the necessary English Language requirement first - ie she must meet the standard of a principal applicant.
Secondly her qualification and awarding university must either be exempt from assessment or have been assessed by NZQA - minimum PAR.
3. Yes if not already exempt from assessment. This is also the same for your own qualification. If it isn't exempt from assessment it MUST be assessed before submitting EOI.
4. I don't believe you have to provide any evidence of work experience at the time of submitting EOI. You make a claim.
It is only later - if the EOI is chosen and when you have received ITA that you must then provide the necessary evidence of your work experience claim.
This will have to be written evidence from your employers that proves the job titles you held, dates of employment and your actual role and responsibilities match the specifics of the occupation off the LTSSL.

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Hi, I am having the exact same qualifications as you. I am planning to apply as well my points as below.... i tried the same cudnt get 60 for aussie as my experience is less.. and i cudnt get to 60 points... Principal Applicant - Complete Identity 30 Yes Character 0 Yes Health 0 Yes English Language Ability 0 Yes Skilled Employment 0 Yes Recognised Qualifications 70 Yes Recognised Work Experience 20 Yes Children 0 Yes Other Family 0 Yes Declaration for Person Assisting Applicant 0 Yes Partner - Points Complete Identity 0 Yes Character 0 Yes Health 0 Yes English Language Ability 0 Yes Skilled Employment 0 Yes Recognised Qualifications 20 Yes Other Family 0 Yes Do you have any idea about IT jobs prospect in NZ, i am more worried about that as i read in many forums online about people facing alot of problems?
There are many IT jobs in NZ. Look on www.seek.co.nz or www.trademe.co.nz or nz.indeed.com
However it does appear difficult for a person overseas to secure a job whilst outside of the country.
There is a lot of competition in this field.
The majority of people on the forum work or specialise in IT.
It is no secret that the majority of NZ employers aren't interested in a candidate who is overseas and without a visa. They much prefer candidates already in NZ who have a visa to work unless the role is seriously specialised and they can't find anyone in NZ to fill it.
All you can do is make yourself stand out and on the offer of a job promise that you will be able to come over quickly to take up the role - this could mean offering to go for a different type of visa initially - eg a temp work visa which don't take long to secure and allow virtually immediate travel.

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