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Hello,
I want to apply for New Zealand under Skilled Migrant Category.
Quick Background on me: I have no work experience (job,internship etc), I recently finished my studies. I completed Masters of Science in Telecoms and Bachelors of Science in Electronics Engineering(H) both from United Kingdom (Washington Accord).
For my EOI, According to my PAR Result I have level 9 qualification as per New Zealand system so i can claim points for that because of my highest qualification that is Masters(MSc). Now, When it comes to absolute skill shortage section F of the EOI, I am not sure if I can claim points for it or not. As i don't have any experience then according to the long term skill shortage list column 4 I can get points If One of the following is met, I satisfy each of them BUT on the basis of my Bachelors degree(BSc). :
- A relevant Washington Accord accredited
undergraduate engineering degree (listed -
see Note 4) - A relevant qualification comparable to (a)
a Bachelor of Engineering (NZQF Level 7), or
(b) a Bachelor of Engineering with Honours
(NZQF Level 8) - A relevant qualification at NZQF Level 7 or
higher with a letter from IPENZ certifying
that the degree and any further learning
meets the academic requirements for
registration as a Chartered Professional
Engineer in New Zealand

My Questions are:
1- If I am claiming recognized qualification points on my Masters Level 9 Degree then Do I need to stick to it in the absolute skill shortage list? In section F14 they ask;
Are you claiming points for a qualification in one of the areas of the absolute skills shortage;
Cannot claim these points unless: have qualification relevant to your occupation as specified in column 4 of long term skill shortage list.
If yes Please provide Occupation name and Qualification Name:
---- That is when I pick Electronic Engineer and Bachelor degree.------
So I want to know is it OK that I am claiming my majority points as recognized qualification on my telecommunication degree(Masters degree which is a specialization of Electronics degree) and STILL choosing my occupation to be Electronics Engineering and picking out my Bachelors degree(as it is directly related) for absolute points claim?

2- To get advise for above question I called the New Zealand immigration helpline. I asked the same above question, after staying on call for more than an hour and many confusions. I was told that Under absolute skill shortage points can ONLY be claimed if you have an offer letter of employment. Trusting them I got off the phone(dissapointed as its hard to find job as fresh grad), But when found more about it on internet I came across a few links those were contradicting what I was told on the helpline:
Bonus point in Expertise in an area of absolute skill shortage
If an occupation is included in the Long Term Skill Shortage List it is assessed as being in an area of absolute skills shortage.

You might be able to claim bonus points in your Expression of Interest for your qualification, work experience and skilled employment, if you find your skills on the Long Term Skill Shortage List. (The condition that applies to me is given below)
Claim 10 Bonus points for a recognized qualification in an area of absolute skills shortage

-If a principal applicant does not have skilled employment in New Zealand in an area of absolute skills shortage, they will be assessed as being qualified in an area of absolute skills shortage if they meet the specifications in Column 4 of the Long Term Skill Shortage List or that was listed on the date their Expression of Interest was selected.
Recognised qualifications in an area of absolute skills shortage only qualify for points if any occupational registration requirements relating to those qualifications are met.


Another link that also specifies similar thing and gives 5 options under which points can be claimed:
How do I gain SMC bonus points for a qualification in an area of absolute skills shortage?
There are five ways you can be granted points in a Skilled Migrant Category (SMC) application for a qualification in an area of absolute skills shortage:
Your qualification is an exact match to a qualification on the Long Term Skills Shortage List (LTSSL).
For qualifications gained outside NZ:-------------------(This applies to me)
You have a International Qualifications Assessment (IQA) from the New Zealand Qualifications Authority (NZQA) that confirms your qualification is comparable to a qualification on the LTSSL.
Please also provide a copy of the qualification assessment letter from the NZQA which accompanies the IQA
You do not have current skilled employment in an occupation on the Long Term Skilled Shortage List (LTSSL) in NZ; and -------------------- (I am not sure if this applies to me or not although for engineering the column three requirement doesn't need any work experiance)
you are suitably qualified for that occupation because you meet the exact qualification and work experience requirements in column 3 of the LTSSL for that occupation



I know its too much information and complex. But I want everything to be out there. Please help me figure this out.
Thanks
Thanks

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Hello,
I want to apply for New Zealand under Skilled Migrant Category.
Quick Background on me: I have no work experience (job,internship etc), I recently finished my studies. I completed Masters of Science in Telecoms and Bachelors of Science in Electronics Engineering(H) both from United Kingdom (Washington Accord).
For my EOI, According to my PAR Result I have level 9 qualification as per New Zealand system so i can claim points for that because of my highest qualification that is Masters(MSc). Now, When it comes to absolute skill shortage section F of the EOI, I am not sure if I can claim points for it or not. As i don't have any experience then according to the long term skill shortage list column 4 I can get points If One of the following is met, I satisfy each of them BUT on the basis of my Bachelors degree(BSc). :
- A relevant Washington Accord accredited
undergraduate engineering degree (listed -
see Note 4) - A relevant qualification comparable to (a)
a Bachelor of Engineering (NZQF Level 7), or
(b) a Bachelor of Engineering with Honours
(NZQF Level 8) - A relevant qualification at NZQF Level 7 or
higher with a letter from IPENZ certifying
that the degree and any further learning
meets the academic requirements for
registration as a Chartered Professional
Engineer in New Zealand

My Questions are:
1- If I am claiming recognized qualification points on my Masters Level 9 Degree then Do I need to stick to it in the absolute skill shortage list? In section F14 they ask;
Are you claiming points for a qualification in one of the areas of the absolute skills shortage;
Cannot claim these points unless: have qualification relevant to your occupation as specified in column 4 of long term skill shortage list.
If yes Please provide Occupation name and Qualification Name:
---- That is when I pick Electronic Engineer and Bachelor degree.------
So I want to know is it OK that I am claiming my majority points as recognized qualification on my telecommunication degree(Masters degree which is a specialization of Electronics degree) and STILL choosing my occupation to be Electronics Engineering and picking out my Bachelors degree(as it is directly related) for absolute points claim?

2- To get advise for above question I called the New Zealand immigration helpline. I asked the same above question, after staying on call for more than an hour and many confusions. I was told that Under absolute skill shortage points can ONLY be claimed if you have an offer letter of employment. Trusting them I got off the phone(dissapointed as its hard to find job as fresh grad), But when found more about it on internet I came across a few links those were contradicting what I was told on the helpline:
Bonus point in Expertise in an area of absolute skill shortage
If an occupation is included in the Long Term Skill Shortage List it is assessed as being in an area of absolute skills shortage.

You might be able to claim bonus points in your Expression of Interest for your qualification, work experience and skilled employment, if you find your skills on the Long Term Skill Shortage List. (The condition that applies to me is given below)
Claim 10 Bonus points for a recognized qualification in an area of absolute skills shortage

-If a principal applicant does not have skilled employment in New Zealand in an area of absolute skills shortage, they will be assessed as being qualified in an area of absolute skills shortage if they meet the specifications in Column 4 of the Long Term Skill Shortage List or that was listed on the date their Expression of Interest was selected.
Recognised qualifications in an area of absolute skills shortage only qualify for points if any occupational registration requirements relating to those qualifications are met.


Another link that also specifies similar thing and gives 5 options under which points can be claimed:
How do I gain SMC bonus points for a qualification in an area of absolute skills shortage?
There are five ways you can be granted points in a Skilled Migrant Category (SMC) application for a qualification in an area of absolute skills shortage:
Your qualification is an exact match to a qualification on the Long Term Skills Shortage List (LTSSL).
For qualifications gained outside NZ:-------------------(This applies to me)
You have a International Qualifications Assessment (IQA) from the New Zealand Qualifications Authority (NZQA) that confirms your qualification is comparable to a qualification on the LTSSL.
Please also provide a copy of the qualification assessment letter from the NZQA which accompanies the IQA
You do not have current skilled employment in an occupation on the Long Term Skilled Shortage List (LTSSL) in NZ; and -------------------- (I am not sure if this applies to me or not although for engineering the column three requirement doesn't need any work experiance)
you are suitably qualified for that occupation because you meet the exact qualification and work experience requirements in column 3 of the LTSSL for that occupation



I know its too much information and complex. But I want everything to be out there. Please help me figure this out.
Thanks
Thanks
1. No you mustn't do this as Masters does not meet the criteria for an occupation off the LTSSL. If you claim the Masters in this area of the EOI those points will be thrown out at preliminary checking. For this you must use the Bachelor Degree. Hopefully your Bachelor degree is recognized or it has already had NZQA assessment like the Masters ?
Luckily for you since you are claiming for the occupation of Electronics Engineer (233411) you do not require post qualification experience also. The qualification is sufficient, but it must be a Level 7 degree and be relevant to that occupation, which of course yours should be.

2. No you do not need a job offer in NZ in order to claim bonus points in relation to absolute skill shortage. What you were told was incorrect. I assume Immigration were confused by the question you were asking so told you the wrong information. Unfortunately that is a regular occurrence as applicants new to the process get all their terminology wrong which confuses Immigration leading to the wrong information being passed over.

So, you should be able to claim 60 points for the Masters as it is Level 9 and then use the Bachelors at Level 7 to get the bonus points in relation to having a qualification in an occupation off the LTSSL. Doesn't mention any need for you to have post qualification experience for that occupation.

Hopefully you can score the magic 140 on the EOI as any lower unfortunately you have zero chance of the EOI being selected because it is without a job offer. If you have a job offer on the EOI it should be selected with 100 or above.

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