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Dear All,

Need your kind help on this.

I have Masters Degree in Singapore which is related to the occupation. I am planning to apply for education assessment for Canada migration.

Is it sufficient if I just submit my Master Degree for the assessment without including my Bachelor Degree? Is it enough to claim point for the education?

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Hi Emerald89!


Likewise, I have my MSc from a University in the UK. I have questioned this on several occasions on many threads. Still waiting on a clear cut solution.

Let me know once you have a clear and definite answer to this.

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Why not just submit both?

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Why not just submit both?
Hi Colchar!

Well, my university back in India wouldn't send the transcripts directly to WES. Also it would involve a lot legwork, getting the documents first attested by Registrar, which seems to take almost a month. Not really convenient for me as I do not reside in India any more. On the other hand, Lancaster University, where I have my MSc degree from, has a straightforward process, taking much lesser time to have my degree documents sent to WES directly. I just have to make a request to them online.

Another point is that my chosen code is closely related to MSc than my Bachelors degree. However, I'm not sure what the idea behind getting ECA is - a) To get all of your degrees evaluated or just the highest/closely related ones ??

Anyway I came across this link on CIC website where they have detailed the process out. And somewhere down you will notice they have given this example

If Deng studied outside of Canada and obtained a foreign educational credential at the Master’s level
Then he would submit proof of his completed foreign educational credential and an original ECA report indicating that it is equivalent to a completed Canadian educational credential at the Master’s level or lower.

Here is is the link --> Guide 7000 - Application for Permanent Residence: Federal Skilled Worker Class

Still confused though...

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Hi Gchabs,

Exactly, I am having the same issue with my university which will not send the grading directly to ICAS. Likewise, to get the new set of grading issued, it will take anywhere from 3weeks to a month.

I wrote to ICAS asking whether I can only submit my Masters and claim for the point for the Masters and working experience after it. They replied to me with standard email which still does not answer my question. BTW, I made the mistake of applying to ICES to realize that it will take 8 weeks to process whereas WES has the processing time only 7 days, if I am not wrong. Well...

"The International Credential Assessment Service of Canada (ICAS) has been designated by the Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism to provide assessments for individuals who are applying for immigration to Canada as a Federal Skilled Worker.

ICAS can prepare an assessment of your education if you applying under any NOC with the following exceptions (NOC 3112 – General Practioners and Family Physicians, NOC 3111 – Specialist Physicians, NOC 3131 – Pharmacist). We cannot advise you, however, whether you qualify for a particular NOC. "

What worries me is that the result would not be accepted by the immigration officer at the time when I apply the visa as it seems strange not to have Bachelor Degree assessment. I had both my degrees successfully assessed by Australian Computer Society with the gradings and transcripts provided by me. I will let you know if I receive the clearer answer from ICAS.

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Hi Gchabs,

Exactly, I am having the same issue with my university which will not send the grading directly to ICAS. Likewise, to get the new set of grading issued, it will take anywhere from 3weeks to a month.

I wrote to ICAS asking whether I can only submit my Masters and claim for the point for the Masters and working experience after it. They replied to me with standard email which still does not answer my question. BTW, I made the mistake of applying to ICES to realize that it will take 8 weeks to process whereas WES has the processing time only 7 days, if I am not wrong. Well...

"The International Credential Assessment Service of Canada (ICAS) has been designated by the Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism to provide assessments for individuals who are applying for immigration to Canada as a Federal Skilled Worker.

ICAS can prepare an assessment of your education if you applying under any NOC with the following exceptions (NOC 3112 – General Practioners and Family Physicians, NOC 3111 – Specialist Physicians, NOC 3131 – Pharmacist). We cannot advise you, however, whether you qualify for a particular NOC. "

What worries me is that the result would not be accepted by the immigration officer at the time when I apply the visa as it seems strange not to have Bachelor Degree assessment. I had both my degrees successfully assessed by Australian Computer Society with the gradings and transcripts provided by me. I will let you know if I receive the clearer answer from ICAS.
Hey Emerald!

Guess we are okay then. Look at the reply I got from WES.

Thank you for your e-mail. Usually WES recommends your higher education to be evaluated. However after you have submitted your documents and they have been reviewed by our evaluation team, if it is necessary WES might ask you to submit additional documents. Before our evaluation team review the documents, we cannot confirm whether you need to submit your other education credential or not.

Best Regards,
WES Customer Service

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Hey Emerald!

Guess we are okay then. Look at the reply I got from WES.

Thank you for your e-mail. Usually WES recommends your higher education to be evaluated. However after you have submitted your documents and they have been reviewed by our evaluation team, if it is necessary WES might ask you to submit additional documents. Before our evaluation team review the documents, we cannot confirm whether you need to submit your other education credential or not.

Best Regards,
WES Customer Service

Hi Guys

I did ECA and got the result too. As I read it somewhere you have to go for assessment of your post secondary education which is after 10+2 . I did the assessment with WES and it took around 10 working days (my documents delivered on 21st April and I got the result on 2nd May and I believe right now it is their peak time since CIC opened the FSW from May 1st and everybody rushing to take ECA. Expect for more than 10 days then add the time takes for courier as well and apply it. All the best.

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Hi ,

I got the reply from ICAS as below. I think I will go ahead with my Masters.

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Thank you for your enquiry.

Yes, an assessment of your master’s degree alone can be provided.

Please contact us if you require any additional information or clarification.

ICAS of Canada"

to my question below
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Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email. What I would like to specifically find out is whether I can get only my Master Degree assessed to claim points without the assessment for underlying Bachelor Degree.

My university does not have the service to reply directly to overseas institutions with regard to the grades and academic transcript. However, they can issue the transcripts to me instead.

So, I am wondering, as ICAS does not accept the documents submitted by the student, whether I could only get my Master degree from NUS assessed and use for immigration purpose.

I would be grateful if you could please advise how the students from other institutions whose university does not provide the service handle the situation to get their degree recognized.

Looking forward to your reply."

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Hi ,

I got the reply from ICAS as below. I think I will go ahead with my Masters.

"
Thank you for your enquiry.

Yes, an assessment of your master’s degree alone can be provided.

Please contact us if you require any additional information or clarification.

ICAS of Canada"

to my question below
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Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email. What I would like to specifically find out is whether I can get only my Master Degree assessed to claim points without the assessment for underlying Bachelor Degree.

My university does not have the service to reply directly to overseas institutions with regard to the grades and academic transcript. However, they can issue the transcripts to me instead.

So, I am wondering, as ICAS does not accept the documents submitted by the student, whether I could only get my Master degree from NUS assessed and use for immigration purpose.

I would be grateful if you could please advise how the students from other institutions whose university does not provide the service handle the situation to get their degree recognized.

Looking forward to your reply."
Hi Emerald,
I have a master's from NTU too and i am in the same boat. I have decided to go ahead with it as well. Just a question now, why do you prefer ICAS or WES ??
ICAS would take longer ... You can pm me if you deem suitable.
Thanks,
AQ

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Hi,
I think we should be fine. To go back and get my Bachelor Degree means a lot of work and money.

I chose ICAS on an impulse decision not the preference. I did not know that it takes longer than WES. But only after I read through the reviews, realized that it will take so much longer.
However, positive sides is that in many reviews, people say that ICAS assessment is recognized for not only the immigration but also for job search and employment.

Which code you are looking at?


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Hi Emerald,
I have a master's from NTU too and i am in the same boat. I have decided to go ahead with it as well. Just a question now, why do you prefer ICAS or WES ??
ICAS would take longer ... You can pm me if you deem suitable.
Thanks,
AQ

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