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I'm an EU citizen and currently living in Australia with my Japanese wife. We're planning on relocating to to the UK early in the new year and we're currenty applying for an EEA family visa for my wife.

My question is that we're also thinking of starting a family soon after we arrive and want to know whether if my wife becomes pregnant when in the UK is she covered under the NHS with this visa or is there some waiting period like with health insurance companies before antenatal care etc. is covered?

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I'm an EU citizen and currently living in Australia with my Japanese wife. We're planning on relocating to to the UK early in the new year and we're currenty applying for an EEA family visa for my wife.

My question is that we're also thinking of starting a family soon after we arrive and want to know whether if my wife becomes pregnant when in the UK is she covered under the NHS with this visa or is there some waiting period like with health insurance companies before antenatal care etc. is covered?
She will be fully covered for NHS ante-, peri- and post-natal services as resident. It may be best to wait until she gets her residence permit, which she can apply straight after arrival (but currently there is a wait of some 5-6 months while they clear their backlog). It is a document that certifies her resident status as a family member of an EU national, and is valid 5 years. She applies on EEA2 form, and is free.
Meanwhile she can register with a GP for routine consultations.

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I am a French citizen with a Japanese wife and we arrived last week in the UK. Me and my kids (who have both nationalities) are eligible for NHS right away. Unfortunatly my wife who has only a EEA family permit is not yet eligible until she gets her EEA2 permit.

I was told by the medical center that she should register a private healthcare. I was researching private medical insurances (PMI) such as bupa or AXA PPP but they seem to be complementary to who has already a NHS cover. Could you recommend me some insurance for foreigners, that will works few months unti
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That's great to hear, thanks. I guess we should apply for the residence permit upon arrival!

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I have been in contact with bupa international and they provide a cover equivalent to NHS for about 282 a month. That's pretty expensive. As I expected, bupa UK only covers people already covered by NHS.

Do you know any alternative solutions?

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Also NHS will cover foreigners as soon as they get their visa, not before. You cannot claim that the application is under going. The medical expense made before the issue of the resident card won't be reimbursed. Maybe it is good to get an insurance before.

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Now I am taking more informations about the EEA2 residence card. The application form says that residence card is not mandatory. "the non-EEA family members of an EEA national have a right to reside in the UK if their EEA national family member is exercising a Treaty right in one of the following ways: worker/self-employed/student".

If my understanding is right, as I am working, my wife has the right to live in the UK and then has right to get NHS. How could I prove that to my GP?

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Now I am taking more informations about the EEA2 residence card. The application form says that residence card is not mandatory. "the non-EEA family members of an EEA national have a right to reside in the UK if their EEA national family member is exercising a Treaty right in one of the following ways: worker/self-employed/student".

If my understanding is right, as I am working, my wife has the right to live in the UK and then has right to get NHS. How could I prove that to my GP?
That's why she should get residence card! While under EU law she is entitled to live in UK, the only way to prove is to have an official document confirming it, which residence card does. Without it, she will have difficulty re-entering UK after the expiry of the 6-month EEA family permit, unless she gets another permit before arriving at UK border.

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Fair enough. The simpliest way is definitely to show the GP the residence card.

But for me the logical way is that if she has the right to live in the UK without a residence card, she should be able to get to NHS without that card. The entry clearance already shows her relation to me.

I agree that she will need the card as a right to re-entry in the UK but re-entry is now less important than health security. Accident and illness can happen any time.

I will put the details if anything new.

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Fair enough. The simpliest way is definitely to show the GP the residence card.

But for me the logical way is that if she has the right to live in the UK without a residence card, she should be able to get to NHS without that card. The entry clearance already shows her relation to me.
But it expires in 6 months.

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I agree that she will need the card as a right to re-entry in the UK but re-entry is now less important than health security. Accident and illness can happen any time.

I will put the details if anything new.
The fly in the ointment is it's currently taking anything up to 5-6 months to get residence card. UKBA is planning to introduce a paid-for same-day premium service at its Liverpool office, but nothing has been announced yet as I write. So while you wait for her card, you may want to play safe and get a private medical cover, for anything other than routine GP consultations.

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