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Old 13th December 2010, 09:17 AM
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Hi All,

First post here and it is fairly long, so apologies in advance.

I am 28 and trying to establish whether I am eligible to hold a French passport; my circumstances are a little convoluted:

I am technically of dual nationality -- my mother is French and my father English. I was born in the UK and have a UK birth certificate, however, at the age of 9, I moved with my parents to France. At that point I was considered as a French citizen, was in the French education system, was on my mother's French passport as a minor, had a French Carte d'identité and was included on the Livret de famille.

To all intents and purposes, there we should have stayed and my dual citizenship would have been assured. However, we in fact returned to the UK after only 2.5 years and I have lived here ever since. My mother (who, despite having lived in UK for more of her life than in France, has never taken UK citizenship and remains a fully-French citizen) and father once again live in France.

I am a fluent French speaker and would really like to hold a French passport and have my French citizenship confirmed, however, I do not know whether this is possible without first taking residence in France again.

It is worth mentioning that over ten years ago I was called up for my JAPD (now called the Journée défense et citoyenneté, a replacement for mandatory military service, the attencance at which is meant to instruct you in matters of French citizenship). In my teenaged stupidity I declined to attend and I feel that this will weigh against me.

In summary, I think that I may be eligible for 'reintegration' into the French nationality, albeit maybe through decree rather than declaration (the latter is a legal right for lapsed citizens, whereas the former can be rejected at the State's discretion) but I am by no means certain how to go about this.

I have emailed the French consulate asking for clarification but, unsurprisingly, I have received no reponse. I intend to write them a letter, including in it a copy of my parents' Livret de famille with my name on it, but does anyone have any better advice or insight into this process?

Many, many thanks for any help!
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If you have already held a carte d'identité, you are French and should only need to "renew" your carte d'identité. Now, it would really help if you still have that first carte d'identité, but if you hunt around a bit on the site Service-Public Carte nationale d'identité d'une personne majeure : première demande - Service-public.fr you'll find how to renew the card when your old card was issued more than 12 years ago (which I'm guessing is your case).

You may need to provide birth certificates of your mother and yourself, along with some proof that your mother was and still is French. But you shouldn't have to go the reintegration route. Contact your consulate about renewing your carte d'identité and see what they say (check the website first and see if you have to make an appointment to do so).

Once you have the carte d'identité, you can apply for your passport.
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If you have already held a carte d'identité, you are French and should only need to "renew" your carte d'identité. Now, it would really help if you still have that first carte d'identité, but if you hunt around a bit on the site Service-Public you'll find how to renew the card when your old card was issued more than 12 years ago (which I'm guessing is your case).

You may need to provide birth certificates of your mother and yourself, along with some proof that your mother was and still is French. But you shouldn't have to go the reintegration route. Contact your consulate about renewing your carte d'identité and see what they say (check the website first and see if you have to make an appointment to do so).

Once you have the carte d'identité, you can apply for your passport.
Cheers,
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Bev, that's amazing, thank you so much!

Unfortunately, I haven't got my old Carte d'identité as it was damaged and got thrown out (back in the days when I foolishly shunned my French identity) but I shall contact my consulate and see what I need to do.

Out of interest, do the consulates respond better to communication in French or English?

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Out of interest, do the consulates respond better to communication in French or English?
It really depends on your local consulate. But if your French is at a decent level, probably best to start in French and let the person you're dealing with switch or suggest the switch to English.

On the US consulate sites, I notice several of them insist you must make an appointment to apply for renewing a carte d'identité, especially if you have "lost" your old card, or it was issued at least 12 years prior. If you don't have the card, they will require all sorts of proof of your mother's nationality. If she hasn't done so yet, you might ask her to renew her carte d'identité first, which will make your job a bit easier.
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