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Old 16th January 2020, 10:55 PM
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Question spouse visa

hi I have spent the day contacting solicitors who have got me all confused. From forms required to submission methods.

Therefore I have turned to you my friends. SORRY IF MY QUESTIONS SOUND STUPID TO YOU!

I am a british national who is hoping to apply through meeting the salary requirement. I live with my parents with the house big enough as not to be overcrowded by my husband living there.
My husband (Pakistani national) has his TB/A1 certificates.

Apart from the online form do I need to complete the optional SU07 & VAF4a appendix 2 form. I looked on gov.uk and it says something along the lines of only fill in this form if you're from korea. Therefore no need for the appendix 2 form.

Yet a solicitor today told me to complete all three of the above as it would strengthen our case. I was told that I should send everything to my husband in Pakistan. Who upon attending his biometric appointment would get all the documents scanned so as to send to Sheffield.

Another so called solicitor said Sheffield was no longer a destination for the application and that the online form off gov.uk covered all the financial questions asked within appendix2 form (vaf4a) and would therefore not be required. This individual told me to scan all the documents online here. Print off the form . pay the application fee+IHS surcharge. Get the forms signed by the applicant and get his biometrics done. get all the evidence from applicant/spouse scanned online. then I the spouse would attend a visa service point of my choice to show the visa people the originals.

Prior to this I thought this was only applicable if the applicant was in this country that you could book at these service points.

Sorry to waffle on but I have got more confused talking to the so called experts.

Please can someone tell me the procedure of applying for a spouse visa.
Who does what ? (paper forms /online forms)
Where is it done?(applicants homeland or the spouses)!

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You do not need SU01 or Appendix 2. The details included in Appendix 2 (re: finances and housing accommodation) are included in the application form. Appendix 2 was only needed for applications using the old system, or citizens of North Korea.

Solicitors often ask you to provide way more documentation than necessary.

Applicant (your husband) needs to fill in and submit the online application. The sponsor (you) need to provide him with your financial and accommodation documents - Originals if at all possible. When he submits the online application, he'll be presented with the requirement to book an appointment with a Visa Application Centre (VAC) in his home country. He needs to attend that appointment with his passport and supporting documents. Some VACs allow you to upload your own documents in advance (which is preferable, so you aren't relying on someone else to scan them on the date of the appointment). I'm not 100% sure if Pakistan VACs do this. Nothing is sent to Sheffield, the whole process is carried out by his local VAC and documents are sent electronically.

As I understand it, there's a new service which allows you to submit the supporting documents within the UK, but I don't know anyone who's used it (Edited to add: I've done a bit of research and this capability is actually only applicable to TLSContact (UKVI commercial partner) service centres, it's not relevant to applications made in Pakistan where the commercial partner is VFSGlobal)

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You do not need SU01 or Appendix 2. The details included in Appendix 2 (re: finances and housing accommodation) are included in the application form. Appendix 2 was only needed for applications using the old system, or citizens of North Korea.

Solicitors often ask you to provide way more documentation than necessary.

Applicant (your husband) needs to fill in and submit the online application. The sponsor (you) need to provide him with your financial and accommodation documents - Originals if at all possible. When he submits the online application, he'll be presented with the requirement to book an appointment with a Visa Application Centre (VAC) in his home country. He needs to attend that appointment with his passport and supporting documents. Some VACs allow you to upload your own documents in advance (which is preferable, so you aren't relying on someone else to scan them on the date of the appointment). I'm not 100% sure if Pakistan VACs do this. Nothing is sent to Sheffield, the whole process is carried out by his local VAC and documents are sent electronically.

As I understand it, there's a new service which allows you to submit the supporting documents within the UK, but I don't know anyone who's used it (Edited to add: I've done a bit of research and this capability is actually only applicable to TLSContact (UKVI commercial partner) service centres, it's not relevant to applications made in Pakistan where the commercial partner is VFSGlobal)
Thankyou very much for the clarification.

Just on submitting service that you mention, Is this the sopra steria im hearing about ?

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Thankyou very much for the clarification.

Just on submitting service that you mention, Is this the sopra steria im hearing about ?
Sopra Steria is for application made in the UK. Outside the UK, still with VFS if I am not mistaken. Initial Spouse Visa has to be done in Pakistan.

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Thanks for the response.

Can I use buzz terms like 'everyone has the right to respect for his private life...…(ARTICLE 8 European human rights) etc bearing in mind that we in the UK are leaving Europe at the end of the month.

if someone can confirm the use of the following,

Relationship= ….link response to appendixFM section 1.0a
English language= …,Appendix FM-SE
Financial requirement =…,Appendix FM1.7

I am writing a letter of support and am trying to link my responses to the rules and guidelines set out by the authorities.

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Dont even try to "school" them on regulations.

The sponsor letter is basically just a timeline of your relationship (much like the applicant letter). where you met, how you met, when did the relationship started, whats your future plans etc. Keep it simple. One page is more than enough.
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Thanks for the advice.

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Totally agree. There is no point in making a general Article 8 argument up front. If you meet the requirements, it's unnecessary anyway, and it makes you look combative, and Article 8 claims almost NEVER apply to applications made outside the UK except possibly in very extreme circumstances where the welfare of young children is involved.

The caseworker does not need you to teach them how to decide an immigration application. I cannot advise against this enough. In your "letter of support" just highlight the important details of your relationship and briefly describe your plans for a future in the UK. Don't use it to threaten or strong-arm the caseworker. IF you have a genuinely exceptional argument for why you cannot live together in any other country besides the UK, you should make a statement in the context of your own personal circumstances, not a presumptive and generalised "everyone has the right to" statement.

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I appreciate your response. Thanks

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Default spouse visa guide

Came across this guide. It has some helpful notes. Please read it with care as I have previously been told some advice is not necessarily required within the application. For example vaf4a , appendix 2 advice.

https://www.migrate.org.uk/spouse-visa-uk-2018/

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