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Hi all,
I've started the online application for my husband's spouse visa renewal. Just want to get clarification on a couple of aspects based on:
- Spouse first entered UK on a Fiance visa 17/01/2017
- First spousal visa issued on 09/03/2017
- BRP that accompanied this visa expires 07/10/2019

Is the 30 month anniversary (ie when his visa expires, not his BRP) 09/09/2019? (ie 30 months from when his spousal visa was issued?

I'm presuming it is, and so am using the 28 day rule based off that, rather than what the BRP states on the card. Could someone let me know if I've got that wrong?

Also, once I've submitted my online application and come to finding an appointment, if an appointment is only attainable after the date of his visa expiry (yet have already submitted online application), is that going to be an issue?

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For what I understand, the 30 months in your case counts from when your wife got her spouse visa. The 28 days rule would be based on this date.
About when to attend the appointment, the recommendation is that you need to have a valid visa to do so, so you need to do it before her visa expires.

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For what I understand, the 30 months in your case counts from when your wife got her spouse visa. The 28 days rule would be based on this date.
About when to attend the appointment, the recommendation is that you need to have a valid visa to do so, so you need to do it before her visa expires.
Thanks for the advice. I'm going to submit the online application on 01/09/2019 (visa expires 09/09). I am of the understanding I cannot access the appointment booking system until I've submitted and paid the fees. Do you think it will be impossible to get an appointment in London within 8 days??

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On your post you say the BRP expires in October, so I thought you would have now time. Not gonna lie to you, I struggled to find an appointment available when I applied, had to wait for 20 days. Can't you apply now?

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Her visa expiration date is the date that is on her BRP. The 30 months is only an indication from when she can apply.

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Her visa expiration date is the date that is on her BRP. The 30 months is only an indication from when she can apply.
The spousal visa was granted 09/03/2017 (from a fiance visa).
Therefore I've calculated the 30 month period from 09/03/2017 = visa expires 09/09/2019.

The BRP has an expiration of 07/10/2019. I don't really understand why the BRP doesn't match up to 30 months from date the visa was issued, so I'm just using 30 months from date visa was issued, rather than the BRP date as that seems more logical. Any clarification welcome though!

If I am unable to get an appointment before 09/09/2019 (yet have submitted online application prior), if this presents a problem (or likely refusal)? Very confused!

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Ok, let me try to explain.

Not always your visa will be exactly 30 months. Ignore that. The validity of your visa is the same as your BRP, so October. There's no such thing as a expired visa with a valid BRP.

You are requested to wait for 30 months to apply for renewal because for your ILR, you need full 60 months in the country. If you apply to early (more than 28 days before the 30 months), you might fall short when it comes to the ILR and you'll need to apply for another extension.

You can apply from 28 days before the 09/09 and you can attend an appointment until the expiring date, which is in October.

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Ok, let me try to explain.

Not always your visa will be exactly 30 months. Ignore that. The validity of your visa is the same as your BRP, so October. There's no such thing as a expired visa with a valid BRP.

You are requested to wait for 30 months to apply for renewal because for your ILR, you need full 60 months in the country. If you apply to early (more than 28 days before the 30 months), you might fall short when it comes to the ILR and you'll need to apply for another extension.

You can apply from 28 days before the 09/09 and you can attend an appointment until the expiring date, which is in October.
Thanks for explaining this to me. It's all making me very nervous!

So to confirm, the BRP is the visa. The date of expiry on the BRP is the date of the visa expiry?
And this date should be what I submit as an answer to the online application question that asks when the applicant's visa expires? (rather than my calculation of 30 months since the spousal visa was first calculated).

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Ok, let me try to explain.

Not always your visa will be exactly 30 months. Ignore that. The validity of your visa is the same as your BRP, so October. There's no such thing as a expired visa with a valid BRP.

You are requested to wait for 30 months to apply for renewal because for your ILR, you need full 60 months in the country. If you apply to early (more than 28 days before the 30 months), you might fall short when it comes to the ILR and you'll need to apply for another extension.

You can apply from 28 days before the 09/09 and you can attend an appointment until the expiring date, which is in October.
Thanks for explaining this to me. It's all making me very nervous!

So to confirm, the BRP is the visa. The date of expiry on the BRP is the date of the visa expiry?
And this date should be what I submit as an answer to the online application question that asks when the applicant's visa expires? (rather than my calculation of 30 months since the spousal visa was first calculated).
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Yes!
Thanks so much for your help. I really hope this is all correct rather than what I interpreted it as, as that gives me a little bit more time to find an appointment.

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