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omg >_< I really hope that if they do this they take savings into account otherwise I will be screwed.

Thankfully applying for the fiance visa in May so should be before any new laws come in but will be applying for the marriage visa in Oct so if they do come in June imma have to figure something out.

At a push with doing overtime and saving hard I could make the 25+k requirment but if they dont take savings into account then eeeeeeeeek

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my husband currently makes about 29,000/year atm and as I'm from the US, English is not necessarily an issue... I dunno if I should be too worried :-S but then that stresses me out too xD

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my husband currently makes about 29,000/year atm and as I'm from the US, English is not necessarily an issue... I dunno if I should be too worried :-S but then that stresses me out too xD
None of us need this added stress, the thinking is that those of us mid-process may have to apply for extensions, and some of us may not qualify anymore with the new criteria (you're probably ok with that salary).

Re-reading the article (lol, out loud, it's the only way I can be sure I don't miss anything), it seems to be aimed at the sham marriage groups, and the groups who 'marry in' and then bring over every living relative they have fit enough to board transport. But the genuine marriages, real love and committment on a budget are going to be caught up in this, and I'm not feeling too happy about that. It does sort of seem as though the thinking is love and a home together is only for the wealthier, and it's because of the sham marriage group!

Genuine marriages are going to have to work even harder to prove themselves, too, and I feel for anyone who has children. &#163;60+K a year is an incredible amount of money to have to have.

I have a feeling this thread is going to be bumped many times over the next few weeks. I know there are those who think speculation is pointless, but there is a lot of stress and anxiety floating around right now, and I can't think of a better way of coping than by holding each other's virtual hands on a dedicated thread.

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This is absolutely terrifying to me. I hope someone can help, not sure if this is the correct place, but it feels relevant.

I am a 20 year old US citizen married to a 23 year old UK citizen. We were married in the US and I have no trouble travelling to the UK due to proof that I have a duty to stay here. I will not be applying for a spousal visa until exactly two years from now because I am finishing a degree. My spouse is currently making &#163;16,000 and lives comfortably, with thousands of pounds saved each year. It is possible that in two years he could be making more, but surely not much over 20k. Living in the US isn't possible because my spouse-to-be is more settled in the UK, he has a stable apartment to live in and a stable job whereas I cannot offer that. Upon graduating I will not have much savings or a job to show for it. I can prove that if i cannot find a job, that his father can employ me immediately. If it matters, my spouse's parents are wealthy and own a company, with hefty savings. I have no worries about proving our relationship, just very worried about showing funds due to this. Perhaps the cutoff isn't so cut and dry?
Though we are unsure of the outcome this will bring, from your experience, do you think I will be refused almost automatically?


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This is absolutely terrifying to me. I hope someone can help, not sure if this is the correct place, but it feels relevant.

I am a 20 year old US citizen married to a 23 year old UK citizen. We were married in the US and I have no trouble travelling to the UK due to proof that I have a duty to stay here. I will not be applying for a spousal visa until exactly two years from now because I am finishing a degree. My spouse is currently making 16,000 and lives comfortably, with thousands of pounds saved each year. It is possible that in two years he could be making more, but surely not much over 20k. Living in the US isn't possible because my spouse-to-be is more settled in the UK, he has a stable apartment to live in and a stable job whereas I cannot offer that. Upon graduating I will not have much savings or a job to show for it. If it matters, my spouse's parents are wealthy and own a company, with hefty savings. I have no worries about proving our relationship, just very worried about showing funds due to this. Perhaps the cutoff isn't so cut and dry? Isn't it currently 13,700?
Though we are unsure of the outcome this will bring, from your experience, do you think I will be refused almost automatically?
We don't know anything for certain until official announcement is made with full rules and conditions. But the government has said it wants a simple system which anyone can understand, with one requirement covering all cases, instead of making numerous exceptions and a range of figures. So if 25,700 is going to be the minimum income for UK sponsor, then you will need it or you don't get your visa, simple as.

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We don't know anything for certain until official announcement is made with full rules and conditions. But the government has said it wants a simple system which anyone can understand, with one requirement covering all cases, instead of making numerous exceptions and a range of figures. So if 25,700 is going to be the minimum income for UK sponsor, then you will need it or you don't get your visa, simple as.
What confuses me though is how there are always UK headlines about violating human rights according to the EU standards. Surely if my husband never goes over 25,700 that is a human rights violation, no? He currently has over 400 left a month extra to save, but that won't matter with the new standard if it is passed. I'm sure we'll find out more soon, but maybe not we want to hear

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What confuses me though is how there are always UK headlines about violating human rights according to the EU standards. Surely if my husband never goes over &#163;25,700 that is a human rights violation, no? He currently has over &#163;400 left a month extra to save, but that won't matter with the new standard if it is passed. I'm sure we'll find out more soon, but maybe not we want to hear
The government has also said it intends to stop people taking the government to court to get the decisions overturned , i.e. to limit the ability of UK courts to interfere with immigration decisions. While you can always have recourse to European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, there is a snag in that you must have exhausted court remedies within UK first before your case may be admissible.
There is independent immigration appeals tribunal that failed applicants can use.


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Well, Joppa, once again you were right.
When my Spousal Visa was issued as a CP and not the KOL I should have asked to have it appealed but due to a time constraint I didn't have the time to wait for the appeal process and thought it best to just move forward and it wouldn't make much of a difference.
I stand corrected. So now I am going to see if I can appeal it from this end. (UK)
Also, when applying for jobs here and they ask if there are any restrictions on my Visa, I have to mention the 27 months before I can apply for the ILR.

Now have to figure out how to go about doing that... blah.

I am with you, AAiS... I have yet to exhale.
I'm in a similar position in that I was working in the States and had been (and still am) married to a British citizen for 7 years. I came over in a rush on a Tier 2 work permit and hadn't realised I could have applied for a spouse visa w/a KOL stamp to apply for ILR on passing the LITUK test (which I have done). I switched to spouse visa from within the UK 2 months into my coming here. Next time I'll read the fine print! Nothing official has been released but a leak and so much aggro is being stoked by supposition. For those caught in the middle, tail-end or beginning, I think it's necessary not to let the anxiety generated by this situation take control of it. There's also the frustration many might feel over being caught up and grouped with fraudsters who commit sham marriages and the like, as well as generally being made to feel judged and in the worst cases, unwanted. It's pretty tough luck and maybe bad timing eh? At this stage, it might not hurt to write to your MP's with your concerns, or see if your UK spouses will do so. They won't be able to solve everyone's problem, but they have a responsibility to hear you and respond with some kind of advice, particularly if it is affecting so many all at once.
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We don't know anything for certain until official announcement is made with full rules and conditions. But the government has said it wants a simple system which anyone can understand, with one requirement covering all cases, instead of making numerous exceptions and a range of figures. So if 25,700 is going to be the minimum income for UK sponsor, then you will need it or you don't get your visa, simple as.
Terrifying indeed....ist this requirement 'if effected' going to affect a couple applying April/May 2012 you think?

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Terrifying indeed....ist this requirement 'if effected' going to affect a couple applying April/May 2012 you think?
Applicants before June will be considered by present rules, but I get the distinct impression that in anticipation of changes, the UKBA is strictly applying the current rules without using too much discretion on borderline cases.
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