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Hi Everyone, I thought I had all my questions answered and then I starting looking over the application on the UKBA website and realize NOT!

1) First of all when they ask about children. I have 4 adult children, who are married and live on their own. Do I include them in this box?

2) Since I have been in the UK for 5 months now, I am unemployed and living off my savings, however my fiancee has been taking care of me with housing, food etc? So do I check unemployed or someone else supporting me?

3) What do I put for Income and Expenditure since I have no income and he is taking care of the household needs.

4) I am here on a visitors visa, however we are living together so to speak, so do I check yes on the akin to marriage question and then explain I have been here on a visitors visa for 6 months?


OK and last but not least (at least for now)! lol I have seen 2 visa refusals lately both for not proving a genuine relationship. What else can you do, but show pictures, screen shots of emails & chat records, letters from family, I have my ticket boarding passes etc. So, is there anything else? I really think it is a crap shoot in this case. Just like arriving at the border and some get questioned and the gentleman asked me nothing just made the statement "Aye I see your going out to the country", that was it and I was coming into the country for 6 months!

I had posted about our lease agreement, and Joppa had said the lease we had was very common place. However, there have been people denied recently having the same lease? My landlady wanted to put me on ours right now, however I was told that I should wait until my visa was approved?

Thank you everyone, I am getting really nervous and to say I am stressed is just a slight understatment!

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Hi Everyone, I thought I had all my questions answered and then I starting looking over the application on the UKBA website and realize NOT!

1) First of all when they ask about children. I have 4 adult children, who are married and live on their own. Do I include them in this box?
Only include minor children moving with you to UK.

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2) Since I have been in the UK for 5 months now, I am unemployed and living off my savings, however my fiancee has been taking care of me with housing, food etc? So do I check unemployed or someone else supporting me?

3) What do I put for Income and Expenditure since I have no income and he is taking care of the household needs.

4) I am here on a visitors visa, however we are living together so to speak, so do I check yes on the akin to marriage question and then explain I have been here on a visitors visa for 6 months?
Remember you are completing the form as though you were back in US, not as things are at the moment. Don't say you are living with your partner in UK now - it raises all sorts of queries.

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OK and last but not least (at least for now)! lol I have seen 2 visa refusals lately both for not proving a genuine relationship. What else can you do, but show pictures, screen shots of emails & chat records, letters from family, I have my ticket boarding passes etc. So, is there anything else? I really think it is a crap shoot in this case. Just like arriving at the border and some get questioned and the gentleman asked me nothing just made the statement "Aye I see your going out to the country", that was it and I was coming into the country for 6 months!
Nothing much. It's a subjective area and all hinge on how the ECO (visa officer) thinks about your relationship. You will have greater problems if you've only known each other a short time, say less than a year.

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I had posted about our lease agreement, and Joppa had said the lease we had was very common place. However, there have been people denied recently having the same lease? My landlady wanted to put me on ours right now, however I was told that I should wait until my visa was approved?
Assured Shorthold Tenancy (AST) automatically rolls into a periodic tenancy after the initial period (usually 6 or 12 months) if both parties agree and this is completely normal and there's no need for a new agreement to be signed - I know, as a landlord. Don't let the landlady include you as tenant now - it will cause problems with your application. You are just a visitor and staying as a guest. Explain this to her and tell her that putting your name down now may jeopardise your visa prospect. I know landlords don't like people staying long term in their rental properties and what to put them down as co-tenants to protect their bottom line and legal position, so you need to be tactful.

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Only include minor children moving with you to UK.

So no where on the application will I put my children down?



Remember you are completing the form as though you were back in US, not as things are at the moment. Don't say you are living with your partner in UK now - it raises all sorts of queries.

Yes, that makes sense!


Nothing much. It's a subjective area and all hinge on how the ECO (visa officer) thinks about your relationship. You will have greater problems if you've only known each other a short time, say less than a year.

We met in Jan, 2011 and became romantically involved (as well as you can online) in April, I then flew to the UK to visit for 6 months. So yes, we have known each other a year, however not romantically?



Assured Shorthold Tenancy (AST) automatically rolls into a periodic tenancy after the initial period (usually 6 or 12 months) if both parties agree and this is completely normal and there's no need for a new agreement to be signed - I know, as a landlord. Don't let the landlady include you as tenant now - it will cause problems with your application. You are just a visitor and staying as a guest. Explain this to her and tell her that putting your name down now may jeopardise your visa prospect. I know landlords don't like people staying long term in their rental properties and what to put them down as co-tenants to protect their bottom line and legal position, so you need to be tactful.
She has never had a problem with me being here, so it won't be a problem at all. Thank you for the clarification on the lease. I was wondering what you thought with her letter stating I have been visiting and have been allowed to stay in the flat for 6 months? This will help with proving our relationship right? or will the UKBA think otherwise?

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She has never had a problem with me being here, so it won't be a problem at all. Thank you for the clarification on the lease. I was wondering what you thought with her letter stating I have been visiting and have been allowed to stay in the flat for 6 months? This will help with proving our relationship right? or will the UKBA think otherwise?
First about your relationship. It may be a borderline case. Send in as much evidence as you can and hope for the best, but there is no sure way of demonstrating durable relationship.

You've asked the question before about the landlady's letter. Provided she makes it clear she is happy to have you staying as a guest (not as a tenant) now and testifies to your closeness as couple, then it may help.

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First about your relationship. It may be a borderline case. Send in as much evidence as you can and hope for the best, but there is no sure way of demonstrating durable relationship.

You've asked the question before about the landlady's letter. Provided she makes it clear she is happy to have you staying as a guest (not as a tenant) now and testifies to your closeness as couple, then it may help.

Thank you Joppa, Yes I know it is a borderline case. The one thing that reassures me is that there have been many couples with less time knowing each other that have been approved. So I will just get my letters together, and all the evidence and hope it is enough.

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