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I am in the final preparations for submitting my skills assessment (as an Electrical Engineer) to Engineers Australia . Hopefully I am expecting to send it through in couple of days. I have a few specific queries/apprehensions as enlisted below:

i) I posses a total of 5+ years of professional work experience, out of which only 3+ years is verifiable.
Therefore, obviously I have only included these 3+ years of work experience in my CDR episodes and have accordingly arranged experience letters. My query is, should I leave out the unverifiable 2 years of experience from my resume?
I feel that this would be a safer option

ii) Following to the above point, in the event of leaving out the 2 years unverifiable experience from my resume, would the professional gap factor come into play and affect my assessment outcome negatively? Or is it advisable to include these 2 years unverifiable experience just in the resume, for the sake of showing continuous professional work?

Note: It is worth mentioning that I am not claiming any points for work experience. So my work experience will solely count towards assessing my CDR.

Taking into account my circumstances as stated above, what would be the best piece of advice you guys could give me? It would be highly helpful to receive some valuable inputs from you guys so that I will be able to submit a perfect application to EA.

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Hi folks,

I am in the final preparations for submitting my skills assessment (as an Electrical Engineer) to Engineers Australia . Hopefully I am expecting to send it through in couple of days. I have a few specific queries/apprehensions as enlisted below:

i) I posses a total of 5+ years of professional work experience, out of which only 3+ years is verifiable.
Therefore, obviously I have only included these 3+ years of work experience in my CDR episodes and have accordingly arranged experience letters. My query is, should I leave out the unverifiable 2 years of experience from my resume?
I feel that this would be a safer option

ii) Following to the above point, in the event of leaving out the 2 years unverifiable experience from my resume, would the professional gap factor come into play and affect my assessment outcome negatively? Or is it advisable to include these 2 years unverifiable experience just in the resume, for the sake of showing continuous professional work?

Note: It is worth mentioning that I am not claiming any points for work experience. So my work experience will solely count towards assessing my CDR.

Taking into account my circumstances as stated above, what would be the best piece of advice you guys could give me? It would be highly helpful to receive some valuable inputs from you guys so that I will be able to submit a perfect application to EA.

Regards
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If you are not claiming any points for work experience and doing only Skill assessment (NOT additional work experience assessment) then it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that there will be any verification regarding work experience.

I was in a similar situation, where my 3 years of experience with previous employer was not verifiable. Hence, I did only skill assessment from EA and provided experience letters for ALL the work experiences. But, in my EOI, i didnt claim any points for that unverifiable work experience and mentioned it as NOT RELEVANT.

Remember, EA says that you have to provide evidence if you have worked for 12+ months or if your CDR is based on that work experience (even though the duration is less than 12 months).

So, if I were you, I would mention unverifiable experience in Resume and attach an experience letter. It is much better than a GAP.

Hope it helps.

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If you are not claiming any points for work experience and doing only Skill assessment (NOT additional work experience assessment) then it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that there will be any verification regarding work experience.

I was in a similar situation, where my 3 years of experience with previous employer was not verifiable. Hence, I did only skill assessment from EA and provided experience letters for ALL the work experiences. But, in my EOI, i didnt claim any points for that unverifiable work experience and mentioned it as NOT RELEVANT.

Remember, EA says that you have to provide evidence if you have worked for 12+ months or if your CDR is based on that work experience (even though the duration is less than 12 months).

So, if I were you, I would mention unverifiable experience in Resume and attach an experience letter. It is much better than a GAP.

Hope it helps.
Hi SqOats,

Yes! That was of great help. Cant thank you enough. So, even though the work experience is unverifiable, I will submit the experience letter I have for that work anyway. As you said quite rightly, it is very unlikely that they will conduct an extensive verification as I am not claiming any points for the work experience.
Fair enough! Now I am all set

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Yes! That was of great help. Cant thank you enough. So, even though the work experience is unverifiable, I will submit the experience letter I have for that work anyway. As you said quite rightly, it is very unlikely that they will conduct an extensive verification as I am not claiming any points for the work experience.
Fair enough! Now I am all set
Your welcome. Just a quick check. Are you applying via CDR route or Washington Accord route. If is Washington accord then you DONT NEED to provide experience letters provided you are opting for Skills Assessment only. Below is the list of documents required as per application check list

Certified copy of passport bio-data page, or National Identity card.
Certified copy of Formal Degree/Diploma or Certificate for first and any subsequent qualification(s).
Certified copy of academic transcript (ie list of subjects studied with results shown).
Brief Resume/Curriculum Vitae.
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Your welcome. Just a quick check. Are you applying via CDR route or Washington Accord route. If is Washington accord then you DONT NEED to provide experience letters provided you are opting for Skills Assessment only. Below is the list of documents required as per application check list

Certified copy of passport bio-data page, or National Identity card.
Certified copy of Formal Degree/Diploma or Certificate for first and any subsequent qualification(s).
Certified copy of academic transcript (ie list of subjects studied with results shown).
Brief Resume/Curriculum Vitae.

I am applying via the CDR route. So yeah, I will have to submit the experience letters to justify the career episodes written in the CDR. I had another interesting query as well.
Since you applied only for the skills assessment without any additional work experience assessment, did it help in reducing the outcome turnaround time in anyway? I am just curious to know if that would speed up our application in the tiniest way possible. In fact, I am on a tight schedule as of now and it is highly crucial to receive the outcome at the earliest possible before my current oz visa expires.
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I am applying via the CDR route. So yeah, I will have to submit the experience letters to justify the career episodes written in the CDR. I had another interesting query as well.
Since you applied only for the skills assessment without any additional work experience assessment, did it help in reducing the outcome turnaround time in anyway? I am just curious to know if that would speed up our application in the tiniest way possible. In fact, I am on a tight schedule as of now and it is highly crucial to receive the outcome at the earliest possible before my current oz visa expires.
Well I dont think so there will be a substantial difference. Turnover time these days is around 13 weeks. Well, if you are in a real hurry, what you can do is that, you can submit the EOI in 9-10th week i-e even before EA outcome. Just keep an eye on EA status, they actually reply you via automated email informing which date case is currently being processed. That way, you can cut short waiting time for the invite by 3-4 weeks. In worst case scenario, if you dont get the EA outcome in time, you have to withdraw your EOI and submit again.

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Well I dont think so there will be a substantial difference. Turnover time these days is around 13 weeks. Well, if you are in a real hurry, what you can do is that, you can submit the EOI in 9-10th week i-e even before EA outcome. Just keep an eye on EA status, they actually reply you via automated email informing which date case is currently being processed. That way, you can cut short waiting time for the invite by 3-4 weeks. In worst case scenario, if you dont get the EA outcome in time, you have to withdraw your EOI and submit again.

Goodluck with the process.
That was very insightful advice and it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for that buddy!
Another issue nagging me is about my name in the academic documents. All my academic documents (ever since) has my first surname (I have two surnames) shortened to an initial, while in the passport, obviously it is the expanded form.
Until now this has never been a problem. In fact, it was readily accepted for by Australian university and for my student visa.
Actually it is not a big deal at all and I might be freaking out! However I just wanted to know if you or anyone you know faced a similar kind of issue.

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There should not be any issues. Check below thread discussing similar issues.

http://www.expatforum.com/expats/aus...rtificate.html

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Eid Mubarak !

SqOats thank you for your quick responses. It has proved to be very helpful.

I am in the process of uploading documents to the EA online portal.
I was just wondering whether I should upload my school leaving certificates (class 10, 12). I can see that there is no provision or specific section on the portal asking for these. Could you please give me some insights as to how you went about doing it?

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Hey fellows,

First of all I would like to thank the the webmasters & the members of this website. This forum have been really beneficial. I am a engineer and I am applying for skill assessment from engineers Australia under occupation of Telecommunications Network Engineer.

I have written my 3 Career Episodes and have filled the summary statement but I am having confusion in making my CPD. I have got some really well written samples of CPD & I have also read the MSA Booklet of EA. I am a bit confused about following line from the book.

"All relevant CPD must be included in your CDR application.This CPD must be provided in list format (title, date, duration,and venue)".

The CPD samples that I have seen so far are written in paragraph format not List Format. I really need a help at this point. Can some one please guide me or give me a sample for CPD.

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