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Hi, I am planning to apply for a PR for database administrator - 262111. Here are the points that I calculated...

Age - 30
IELTS - 10
Skilled emp - have 3.5 yrs exp but considering that ACS recently started cutting down two years - 0 points here
Qualification - 15 (Master of Computer Application)
State sponsorship - 5 (262111 is on consolidated list, so sponsorship is mandatory)

so totally I will have 60 points. I checked various states' sites and found that...

South Australia is asking for 1 year skilled work exp. So even with ACS deducting 2 yrs exp, I still qualify with 1.5 years skilled exp.

Northern Territory is asking for 3 yrs exp post qualification and I have 3.5 yrs exp post qualification. I assume I can be eligible for this state's sponsorship and gain 5 points.

Rest of the two states VIC & ACT state 3 yrs recent and relevant exp - it is not clear here that they looking for 3 yrs post qualification or skilled exp. If it skilled exp of 3 yrs then I am not eligible for these state's sponsorship.

After doing this research I approached two migration agents, one said am eligible and was willing to take up my case and proceed with PR application and the other said that DIAC is looking for 5 yrs exp... even if we get invitation to apply etc, it can stuck in the process if we don't have 5 yrs exp.

Am confused now, can seniors here please help clarify if am eligible to apply for a PR or is it going to be a waste of time & money trying to apply for PR with my current situation.
Obviously, you can not be sure until you get some official confirmation on this... but if the words are exactly "Recent and Relevant" as u mentioned, Then I guess Post-Grad Relevant experiences (Marked as 'Relevant') in ACS letter should suffice.

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Obviously, you can not be sure until you get some official confirmation on this... but if the words are exactly "Recent and Relevant" as u mentioned, Then I guess Post-Grad Relevant experiences (Marked as 'Relevant') in ACS letter should suffice.
Thanks Sunlight for throwing light on this ;-)
Is there a way to get official information on this? Can we email DIAC/ACS/States? Or should I just trust the MARA agent who said we can go ahead with my case at least with SA or NT and gamble money/luck... Oh!! did I mention that my code is currently on the off-list for SA? that is another thing to consider... Will that be reset on July1st or not... with so many ifs & buts am really at sea!!

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Thanks Sunlight for throwing light on this ;-)
Is there a way to get official information on this? Can we email DIAC/ACS/States? Or should I just trust the MARA agent who said we can go ahead with my case at least with SA or NT and gamble money/luck... Oh!! did I mention that my code is currently on the off-list for SA? that is another thing to consider... Will that be reset on July1st or not... with so many ifs & buts am really at sea!!
No obviously you should not just Trust your agent.... ! That's the last thing you want...!

You should phone all the concerned authorities and see what they say.

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Hi, I am planning to apply for a PR for database administrator - 262111. Here are the points that I calculated...

Age - 30
IELTS - 10
Skilled emp - have 3.5 yrs exp but considering that ACS recently started cutting down two years - 0 points here
according to this pdf, ACS will cut down 2 years of exp. So, your skilled experience would be 1.5 years.
Qualification - 15 (Master of Computer Application)
State sponsorship - 5 (262111 is on consolidated list, so sponsorship is mandatory)

so totally I will have 60 points. I checked various states' sites and found that...

South Australia is asking for 1 year skilled work exp. So even with ACS deducting 2 yrs exp, I still qualify with 1.5 years skilled exp.

Northern Territory is asking for 3 yrs exp post qualification and I have 3.5 yrs exp post qualification. I assume I can be eligible for this state's sponsorship and gain 5 points.
even if you get a SS from SA and NT you wont be able to get a job easily. so stick to VIC and ACT
Rest of the two states VIC & ACT state 3 yrs recent and relevant exp - it is not clear here that they looking for 3 yrs post qualification or skilled exp. If it skilled exp of 3 yrs then I am not eligible for these state's sponsorship.
vic faq clearly states 3 years of exp post qualification. ACT not sure.
After doing this research I approached two migration agents, one said am eligible and was willing to take up my case and proceed with PR application and the other said that DIAC is looking for 5 yrs exp... even if we get invitation to apply etc, it can stuck in the process if we don't have 5 yrs exp.

Am confused now, can seniors here please help clarify if am eligible to apply for a PR or is it going to be a waste of time & money trying to apply for PR with my current situation.
my advice here is that you go with IELTS and ACS validation. if you get a SS you can go ahead with visa application, if not then you can wait for 1.5 years since both scores will be valid for the next two years. and finally, don't go with agents its waste of money and they misguide you get earn money. after few months that guy will resign consultancy and you will get a new consultant and a lot of time would be wasted.
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I have emailed ACS these two questions and here is the reply...
I think I have to initiate skill assessment and see what happens with my case.

1. Can I include Internship too as experience when applying for skill assessment?

2. And I read a lot on internet that recently ACS started to cut down 2 years from experience even when the qualification and work experience are related. How far is this true? The reason am asking is to know if I will be able to claim 5 points for skilled experience when applying to DIAC.

Response from ACS -

Volunteer work can be considered alongside paid work if there is a specific contract in place with a statement of duty and references supplied. Post-qualification internships may be considered if this work is at a suitable professional level.



Work expressed to be at a trainee or junior level is also not normally considered unless the applicant has already acquired a qualification which would have served as a means of obtaining the skills needed to perform the duties.


Duties involving the assembling or repairing of computers at an operator level, installing and updating manufacturer-supplied software, data entry, clerical and administrative interaction with software-based commercial systems; are not considered to be at a professional level.



With regards to your second question, that is a common misconception. The ACS does not "cut down" any experience. Applicants who apply for a skills assessment are all considered unskilled up until a point deemed acceptable by the ACS. From the date which those requirements are met, an applicant will then be deemed as skilled. In your example, those 2 years would have been required for an applicant to be deemed as skilled, with the years following counted as skilled employment for migration purposes. I hope this clarifies the issue.

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