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My scenario: I was granted a 485 Temporary Graduate visa on October 2017 for 2 years. I worked over the 2 years for the same employer, I got a positive skills assessment from ACS for ICT business analyst with no experience deducted. I started with a new employer on a 482 TSS medium term visa on November 2019 in the same role.

I'm very confused about the pathways to 186, I know I don't have the 3 years work experience anyway but just considering my options. I'm confused about direct entry vs temporary entry. Am I only eligible for temporary transition stream because I hold a 482? Meaning I need to stay 3 years with my current employer, if at any point I switch jobs I will need to wait another 3 years for.

Or will I be eligible for direct entry in Oct 2020 when I have 3 years' experience? IF my employer is willing to sponsor me.

How easy/hard/common is it to get a 186 approved? I read a few threads in the forum and seems like it's not that easy for it to be approved unless you're highly skilled, I mean I would've only been working for exactly 3 years.

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You will be eligible for direct entry pathway after 3 years of relevant experience with the same employer or not. For now you are not eligible for transition pathway because of your change of employer.

As long as the job is listed in MLTSSL it is regarded as skilled and as long as you fulfill the eligibility criteria, you are ok to apply and I don't think job type or skill level determines your chance of grant or not. One important thing sets apart 186 and other independent skilled visa is that, 186 requires sponsorship nomination to be approved first. DHA will look at many aspects of the company and why they have to hire you instead of anyone else in Australia. Also DHA started to be more strict on checking the working visa and 186 over the past 3 years.

Also 186 comes with a condition to work for the same company for 2 years after grant. more conditions than independent skilled visa.

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My scenario: I was granted a 485 Temporary Graduate visa on October 2017 for 2 years. I worked over the 2 years for the same employer, I got a positive skills assessment from ACS for ICT business analyst with no experience deducted. I started with a new employer on a 482 TSS medium term visa on November 2019 in the same role.

I'm very confused about the pathways to 186, I know I don't have the 3 years work experience anyway but just considering my options. I'm confused about direct entry vs temporary entry. Am I only eligible for temporary transition stream because I hold a 482? Meaning I need to stay 3 years with my current employer, if at any point I switch jobs I will need to wait another 3 years for.

Or will I be eligible for direct entry in Oct 2020 when I have 3 years' experience? IF my employer is willing to sponsor me.

How easy/hard/common is it to get a 186 approved? I read a few threads in the forum and seems like it's not that easy for it to be approved unless you're highly skilled, I mean I would've only been working for exactly 3 years.
Even after 3 years, it's up to your employer to sponsor you and more of them are becoming increasingly aware how difficult it is to get PR independently. For example, my employer refused support until I meet 3yrs work (currently at 2.5) but I don't trust them, HR director literally told me "when you get PR you're free to go anywhere". I got really annoyed and told him I'm not in prison either.

Other friend of mine got told fine to sponsor, then told it's being delayed by 6 months. They know what's going on and try to abuse employees because effectively they have their future in their hands. It now also involves a new element in PR, employer preference...I see many internal relationships in my office that became positive PR sponsorship. People who hang out with higher management etc...it's really unfair.

So my advice to you is, try to get sponsored by your company but prepare as if you were doing it alone for the PR. One can only expect employers abusing this situation and holding employees in ransom, which is a sad outcome of stupidity of the PR points system here. If you work in country for 3-4 yrs you should be automatically eligible for PR without involving employer sponsorship.
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You will be eligible for direct entry pathway after 3 years of relevant experience with the same employer or not. For now you are not eligible for transition pathway because of your change of employer.

As long as the job is listed in MLTSSL it is regarded as skilled and as long as you fulfill the eligibility criteria, you are ok to apply and I don't think job type or skill level determines your chance of grant or not. One important thing sets apart 186 and other independent skilled visa is that, 186 requires sponsorship nomination to be approved first. DHA will look at many aspects of the company and why they have to hire you instead of anyone else in Australia. Also DHA started to be more strict on checking the working visa and 186 over the past 3 years.

Also 186 comes with a condition to work for the same company for 2 years after grant. more conditions than independent skilled visa.

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Thanks Jenny!

I currently only have 85 points so I doubt I will ever get an invite at with the cut off at 90/95

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