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Old 12th February 2020, 05:24 AM
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Let all applicants do the same
What do Others care
In fact itís less competition for others if the application is rejected after applying
Itís their time money and energy thatís at stake, not mine
They are the best judge as they will be the one getting and advantage or facing ban and visa rejection
The idea is to give all the pros and cons and let the members take an informed decision

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I agree with you NB. My point is that people have been getting away with this for a long time. It's high time DHA block all loopholes.

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I agree with you NB. My point is that people have been getting away with this for a long time. It's high time DHA block all loopholes.
How do you know it’s true ?
I can tell you that I git my grant without a skills assessment, so does that make it true ?

There are many sadistic people in the world who will give wrong information just for the thrill

No Mara agent will recommend that you do it, as far as I know

I am not talking about fly by night agents who don’t care if you get rejected as they get their fees upfront

If this was a risk free legal loophole, dont you think every Mara agent would have exploited it for their clients ?

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Could you please advise how contract role works in Indian and if they are counted for work exp for PR. I'm not sure if they will give PF contribution.
Contract work is self employed
You can claim that period for experience as long as you have evidence
You donít need to have PF contribution

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May I suspect that you were advised by your agent to do so?

Because a normal person with a conventional mind wouldn't even go near there as he/she will fear a slightest mistake could cost them fortunes.

Now, for an agent who knows how to ball with the system would have convinced a naive client easily that this is the short cut and everyone else does it.

I could be wrong and you could just be an adventurous person who somehow wanted to explore different options.

But if it turns out that the agents are the ones suspending the EOIs, then I don't know what to say really. They should simply just be outlawed.
Ok, let me share full story. This is what actually my friend was planning to do based on my findings.

In my case, in January I took a risk and changed my EOI and claimed additional 5 points by stating that the first 2 years of my work experience are skilled contrary to ACS evaluation based on "10.4.1 Assessing periods of skilled employment” PAM change. Then I realised that DOE changes only when points change. So, now I'm thinking to revert back that work experience relevancy in May if I don't recieve the ITA by that time since I'll get those 5 points anyway with full 5 years of experience in May (7 years in total with the first 2 years deducted). Not sure how drastic it is but I've started my journey in early 2018 I invested a lot and it's been never ending chasing game. Especially 2019, min points increased from 70 to 90.

Consulted couple agents. They shared that PAM change is not black and white. It depends on the CO and your case and presented evidences. Regarding early point claim, they didn't encourage but haven't seen issues with that so far.

Would appreciate everyone's point of view here. Maybe I'm really missing out something here.

Offshore applicant;
Code - 263111;
Age - 30;
Education - 15;
Language - 20;
Single - 10;
Experience - 10 points (claiming the first 2 years);
NAATI - 5.


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Hi All,

Have a question regarding DOE. I've claimed the superior language skills in October 2019 (even though I didn't have it at that time) and suspended my EOI. Finally on 3rd attempt I managed to get 79+ in PTE early February. After unsuspending the EOI and updating the reference ID field the DOE still shows October 2019. Do you think this will be a problem?
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What about the rule that you cannot give wrong information in the EOI ?

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What about the option that lets you update your EOI prior to being invited? There is no rule that states you should delete your EOI if you have provided an incorrect information. The rule clearly states you should update your EOI and ensure that the information provided is correct at the time of invitation.

He provided an incorrect information earlier, then he later updated his EOI to reflect the right information. That is why there is a section in EOI where it shows the last date the EOI was updated. That is what the CO's refer to when assessing points.

Like I stated earlier, it's a loophole DHA need to fix.
If someone claims a point before date and if CO catches it, then chance of fee getting wasted n blacklisting .

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What about the option that lets you update your EOI prior to being invited? There is no rule that states you should delete your EOI if you have provided an incorrect information. The rule clearly states you should update your EOI and ensure that the information provided is correct at the time of invitation.

He provided an incorrect information earlier, then he later updated his EOI to reflect the right information. That is why there is a section in EOI where it shows the last date the EOI was updated. That is what the CO's refer to when assessing points.

Like I stated earlier, it's a loophole DHA need to fix.
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Theres a difference between "Updating information" VS providing completely false information to begin with. You are specifically asked to provide correct and accurate information on the submission of your EOI NOT just at the time of your invitation. The ability to update your EOI is to advise any change in circumstances.

In the english section they asked if you took a test in the last 36 months, he selected YES when he never did.
He would've also provided a fake 'test taken date' as well as a fake 'test reference number'.

When he first submited the EOI with fake points he would've been asked to tick YES to the following, in which he lied to all the above and below statements:

"Understand that if they give false or misleading information, a future visa application may be refused, or any visa granted may be cancelled.*"

"Please check that the information provided is correct before continuing.

If the information provided is incorrect, this may result in refusal of any future application from this EOI."
Great point. Are you aware that there is a section to enter your English score date while updating your EOI? What do you think that date is there for? Why is there a section that shows the last date the EOI was updated? Are you aware that people gain and loose points and update EOI frequently? CO's don't look at the date the EOI was created due to this. They only look at the date the EOI was last updated against the date the English test was taken.

Another scenario. X has been working with a company for 4 years and 10months (April 2015 - February 2020). X created an EOI and entered that he has been working from Feb 2015 - Feb 2020 just to claim 10 points and then suspends the EOI. In April 2020 when X completed 5 years, he then goes for skill assessment and after receiving a positive assessment, he updates his EOI to reflect the right experience. X will have an earlier DOE because his points doesn't change. He only updated his EOI with the correct information.

See there are so many ways people have been exploiting the EOI, and those are just a few examples I have given. DHA needs to fix Skill select.
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May I suspect that you were advised by your agent to do so?

Because a normal person with a conventional mind wouldn't even go near there as he/she will fear a slightest mistake could cost them fortunes.

Now, for an agent who knows how to ball with the system would have convinced a naive client easily that this is the short cut and everyone else does it.

I could be wrong and you could just be an adventurous person who somehow wanted to explore different options.

But if it turns out that the agents are the ones suspending the EOIs, then I don't know what to say really. They should simply just be outlawed.
Ok, let me share full story. This is what actually my friend was planning to do based on my findings.

In my case, in January I took a risk and changed my EOI and claimed additional 5 points by stating that the first 2 years of my work experience are skilled contrary to ACS evaluation based on "10.4.1 Assessing periods of skilled employment” PAM change. Then I realised that DOE changes only when points change. So, now I'm thinking to revert back that work experience relevancy in May if I don't recieve the ITA by that time since I'll get those 5 points anyway with full 5 years of experience in May (7 years in total with the first 2 years deducted). Not sure how drastic it is but I've started my journey in early 2018 I invested a lot and it's been never ending chasing game. Especially 2019, min points increased from 70 to 90.

Consulted couple agents. They shared that PAM change is not black and white. It depends on the CO and your case and presented evidences. Regarding early point claim, they didn't encourage but haven't seen issues with that so far.

Would appreciate everyone's point of view here. Maybe I'm really missing out something here.

Offshore applicant;
Code - 263111;
Age - 30;
Education - 15;
Language - 20;
Single - 10;
Experience - 10 points (claiming the first 2 years);
NAATI - 5.


Case officer can easily check by just checking against updated point date with the documents provided n not against last updated and if discripencies are there then they can go with your updates and can catch in seconds. They also have change history by which they can easily make out .

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Do we have a March round link

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Do we have a March round link
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