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I know we all know that the criteria for immigration changed slowly and steadily beginning after March this year. It is more so for offshore ICT occupations where the cutoff points for 189 are ever evasive.

Only few who have the full 8 year experience before age 33 and with skilled spouse can achieve 90 points from offshore and 95 if they can do naati. So The question is to have some discussion for those who are at 80-85 after November change. This is also to inform the new comers who are planning to immigrate and decide correctly else they will be wasting time and money in the AUS PR.

Options as I see it.

189 - probably have to be patient and wait in queue with 80-85 for some time ( dont know for how long)
491/190 - Only possible for onshore applicants as I see the criteria in all the states.

So my questions. Someone living long enough in AUS may know it.

- Is there really a need for Software related roles in AUS?
- The situation for ICT related roles can change in the near future? e.g states opening 491 for offshore software engineer? or 189 cutoff points coming down?

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I know we all know that the criteria for immigration changed slowly and steadily beginning after March this year. It is more so for offshore ICT occupations where the cutoff points for 189 are ever evasive.

Only few who have the full 8 year experience before age 33 and with skilled spouse can achieve 90 points from offshore and 95 if they can do naati. So The question is to have some discussion for those who are at 80-85 after November change. This is also to inform the new comers who are planning to immigrate and decide correctly else they will be wasting time and money in the AUS PR.

Options as I see it.

189 - probably have to be patient and wait in queue with 80-85 for some time ( dont know for how long)
491/190 - Only possible for onshore applicants as I see the criteria in all the states.

So my questions. Someone living long enough in AUS may know it.

- Is there really a need for Software related roles in AUS?
- The situation for ICT related roles can change in the near future? e.g states opening 491 for offshore software engineer? or 189 cutoff points coming down?
If the states donít find local applicants they may relax the conditions

Dha would prefer the employers or states to sponsor applicants if there is a shortage
So the federal government canít be blamed for overcrowding in cities

189 I think will die a slow death

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In Victoria at least there are always jobs for software developers. People are always hiring, so if you do ever get a PR or sponsor you'll very easily find a job.

I doubt the points will ever get down to 80, theres a chance that it will go to 85 but even thats being optimistic.
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I will make everyone happy by posting this

https://www.acs.org.au/content/dam/a...-FINAL-Web.pdf

Correction: Start reading from page 14

This is from ACS
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If the states donít find local applicants they may relax the conditions

Dha would prefer the employers or states to sponsor applicants if there is a shortage
So the federal government canít be blamed for overcrowding in cities

189 I think will die a slow death

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You are right. They are implementing what they really want. Smaller stream going to cities and more people diverted to regional but only based on demand. But unfortunately there are no new tech jobs in the regional areas.

The high talent visa is probably to create more tech startups but dont know they will do it in the regional cities.

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A few years back as long as you have studied in Australia for 2 years you would've gotten PR the scene is just becoming a lot more competitive, over population is starting to become an issue... they still want skilled worker - but only the best, brightest and most committed.

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A few years back as long as you have studied in Australia for 2 years you would've gotten PR the scene is just becoming a lot more competitive, over population is starting to become an issue... they still want skilled worker - but only the best, brightest and most committed.
Yes. I read the ACS report posted by honorable member. I think the local workforce + limited skilled immigration seems enough for now.

Unless there is a growth in other cities or regional develop, there wont be a mass demand for ICT software engineers from offshore i think.

If you are highly skilled, they are making it easy or you need to commit your time and money to study in Australia.

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I regret leaving my job in software engineering back home and coming to australia to do a two years masters(which added zero value) and since graduation in July 2018 i have been working as a software engineer in sydney. Got 20 for PTE and currently on 90 points for 190 (including State points). Visa expiring in October 2020. It is really unfortunate to see that australian governments are overlooking skilled work experiences for high points which people(especially software engineers) are spending their golden years of age to achieve using stupid things llike PY, regional study, naati etc.

Looking back at my friends from back home who started as same as me and stayed there during all this time working in the software industry and now getting sponsored by USA and german companies based on their skilled experiences, makes me regret i wasted so much time and money in this country and still have to do other silly things like naati to achieve points.

I hope software engineers especially from Pakistan, India, etc realise this and instead of coming here and wasting time build and work on their careers back home. This immigration in this country now seems to be for people who were actually born with the sole objective in their life to collect points

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I regret leaving my job in software engineering back home and coming to australia to do a two years masters(which added zero value) and since graduation in July 2018 i have been working as a software engineer in sydney. Got 20 for PTE and currently on 90 points for 190 (including State points). Visa expiring in October 2020. It is really unfortunate to see that australian governments are overlooking skilled work experiences for high points which people(especially software engineers) are spending their golden years of age to achieve using stupid things llike PY, regional study, naati etc.

Looking back at my friends from back home who started as same as me and stayed there during all this time working in the software industry and now getting sponsored by USA and german companies based on their skilled experiences, makes me regret i wasted so much time and money in this country and still have to do other silly things like naati to achieve points.

I hope software engineers especially from Pakistan, India, etc realise this and instead of coming here and wasting time build and work on their careers back home. This immigration in this country now seems to be for people who were actually born with the sole objective in their life to collect points

***Apologies for venting out****
The problem is that most international students who come here are not actual "skilled" or not enough "skilled".

Many students here just did anything for a PR while did not consider their career development in the field that they are interesting or good at.

Even the worse, after they got a PR, they do other non-relevant or other unskilled jobs instead.

I still wondering about this immigration program as well. Whether DHA wants it as "skilled" migration or "point competition" migration ?? The point for work experience should be mandatory in order to apply for EOI and permanent visa. Otherwise, many aspirants claim points for stupid things without skilled work experience.

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I feel honestly down. I am offshore 261312 with 90 pts DOE 11/10/2019. I don’t know if this has a chance. Too late to do student visa now...

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