Eoi-2019

[Soony]

I am looking for information regarding the ANZSCO version 1.3 impact on my EOI.
Vetassess positively assessed my Architecture bachelor degree comparable to AQF for interior designer (232511) last August.
In the ANZSCO version 1.3 they lowered the interior designer from skill level-01 (bachelor) to skill level-02 (Diploma). Will I lose the 15 points I claimed for my educational level? and If yes can I get them by getting a different assessment for my degree.
Architects that applied as draftsman will you help please, how many points did you get for your educational level?

[LordD]

Originally Posted by Soony

I am looking for information regarding the ANZSCO version 1.3 impact on my EOI.
Vetassess positively assessed my Architecture bachelor degree comparable to AQF for interior designer (232511) last August.
In the ANZSCO version 1.3 they lowered the interior designer from skill level-01 (bachelor) to skill level-02 (Diploma). Will I lose the 15 points I claimed for my educational level? and If yes can I get them by getting a different assessment for my degree.
Architects that applied as draftsman will you help please, how many points did you get for your educational level?

Wow, that's surprising that Australia and New Zealand seem to be moving in the opposite direction from much of the world with regards to interior designers! An interior designer does not equate to an interior decorator and yet that seems to be exactly what ANZSCO is doing; very confusing and dangerous for the public, especially given the current construction environment/culture there! It seems they are trying to protect the "architects" name sake that did not train in interior architecture and feel threatened by those filling in that niche. Not a good look for Australia/New Zealand.

If all that is required for that title now is a one year diploma, this move will only serve to make it more difficult for anyone educated/trained down there to immigrate elsewhere as much of the world is now requiring interior designers (architects/only reason they can't call themselves that is because of the aforementioned group has made it a protected classification) to be educated in an accredited CIDA 4 year university program + 4 years apprenticeship before sitting for the 4 part exam much like an" architect" or accountant. The structure has now been developed like certified "architects" whereas no one can call themselves an "interior designer" until they have passed the NCIDQ exam making it a protected classification. This has been done to help educate the public that an "interior designer" is educated in much the same was as an "architect" and not allow a "decorator" to misrepresent themselves. It would be a total waste of money for anyone to go down there for a degree as it has been invalidated by ANZSCO now!

I know for a fact anyone who has been educated in an American university under the CIDA accreditation has at least as much education in architecture as the programs I've seen in Australia for their bachelor degrees in architecture!

To answer your question: it should not detract from your points as your education is a bachelor or higher, this change only serves to harm the public and sadly Australia/New Zealand's reputation to those in the field.

[LordD]

Upon review of VETASSESS requirements: "Interior Designer (ANZSCO Code 232511)

This occupation requires a qualification assessed as comparable to the education level of an Australian Qualifications Framework (AQF) Bachelor degree or higher degree and in a field highly relevant to the nominated occupation."

Either VETASSESS has not updated their system or there has been an error on the ANZSCO 1.3 lists (possibly the data entry employee confused by "designer"/"decorator" titles. It will interesting to see which one is actually correct!

[Soony]

Yes! there is no change on the VETASSESS website but they changed the Interior Designer (232511) level in the Australian Bureau of Statistics website without any change in the occupation task list or description.
The Interior Decorate (399912) occupation is still there but with skill level 03.

[PrettyIsotonic]

Might be worth checking with VETASSESS directly regarding the degree --> diploma requirement change, although this would only affect new skills assessments I would think?

Having said that, as long as you have a AQF Bachelors degree equivalent - which you have as assessed last August - my understanding is you will be able to claim 15 points.

There are some MARA agents that provide a free consultation if you wanted to check with them too: New Stars Migration Canberra.

[LordD]

Originally Posted by Soony

Yes! there is no change on the VETASSESS website but they changed the Interior Designer (232511) level in the Australian Bureau of Statistics website without any change in the occupation task list or description.
The Interior Decorate (399912) occupation is still there but with skill level 03.

From what I've seen they moved the skill level up for an interior decorator to level 2 and the skill level down for an interior designer to level two making them one and the same which they are NOT by a long shot!

https://www.anzscosearch.com/search-by-anzsco-group/

399912 Interior Decorator VETASSESS 2
232511 Interior Designer VETASSESS 2

As you know an interior designer can do "decorating" finishes, but an interior decorator can NOT do architectural designing without proper education! I don't know what ANZSCO is thinking, but this seems highly incorrect!

[Soony]

Originally Posted by PrettyIsotonic

Might be worth checking with VETASSESS directly regarding the degree --> diploma requirement change, although this would only affect new skills assessments I would think?

Having said that, as long as you have a AQF Bachelors degree equivalent - which you have as assessed last August - my understanding is you will be able to claim 15 points.

There are some MARA agents that provide a free consultation if you wanted to check with them too: New Stars Migration Canberra.

I did send them an email and they said that the change in the skill level "does not change the comparability of your overseas qualification". So I guess I will be able to claim the 15 points.

[Soony]

Originally Posted by LordD

From what I've seen they moved the skill level up for an interior decorator to level 2 and the skill level down for an interior designer to level two making them one and the same which they are NOT by a long shot!


399912 Interior Decorator VETASSESS 2
232511 Interior Designer VETASSESS 2

As you know an interior designer can do "decorating" finishes, but an interior decorator can NOT do architectural designing without proper education! I don't know what ANZSCO is thinking, but this seems highly incorrect!

yeah you are right, both are skill level 02 which does not make sense.

[LordD]

Originally Posted by Soony

yeah you are right, both are skill level 02 which does not make sense.

I did some more research and they have in fact made them the same occupation: both under ISCO 3432 (decorators). They show 232511 with both ISCO 3432 & 2161 (interior architect), again, I'm not sure if it was due to confusion with the term "designer" or if they intend to break it out and put one sub-set under VETASSESS and the other back under AACA (ID was once under that assessing authority a couple of years back) or how they will address the vastly different occupations that require vastly different education levels!