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akshaypuri05 11th July 2019 05:02 AM

Claiming Partner's Point (189) - All Questions
 
Hi Experts,

I have applied for 189 (under 261313) on 6-march-19 with 75 points and 190 NSW with 80 points. However, now looking at the current trend of EOI movement i am thinking of claiming 5 additional points for partner's skill. I have few questions/doubts and i will be highly grateful if you could answer below questions:

1) My wife is an electronics engineer (but no relevant experience) and an MBA finance with 4 years of relevant experience. Both the codes electronics engineer and accountant (general) are in same skills list as mine. So i can claim 5 points with any of the positive skills assessment (electronics engineer or accountant)?

2) Is an MBA finance degree (from India) is enough to get the positive skills assessment from CPA? If any member with past experience could comment.
We want to go ahead with the accountant skill assessment as turnaround time as well as fees are quite low when compared to EA.

3) Do we need to show relevant experience as well to claim partner's point? as my wife doesn't have experience as electronics engineer but she has 4 years of experience as financial analyst (accountant general) so should i go ahead with accountant? Though, i have checked website of Engineers Australia and CPA both and for skills assessment they don't need relevant experience (like ACS)

4) and most important - on DOHA site i found following rules
Partner skills

You can receive five points if, when you are invited to apply for this visa, your partner provides evidence that they:

a) were under 45 years old
b) had competent English
c) had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation
d) had a suitable skills assessment from the relevant assessing authority for their nominated skilled occupation, and the assessment wasn’t for a Subclass 485 visa.

If i understand the highlighted text correctly, i can claim partners point now and i only have to show evidence when i am invited to apply, is this understanding correct? or should i get the positive skills assessment before claiming partner's point in my EOI?

This will make a great difference as i will lose 5 points from 1 Nov because of age and want to have an invite in hand hopefully before that.

Please provide you inputs on above questions. any other comments/suggestions are also most welcome :)

kunsal 11th July 2019 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshaypuri05 (Post 14904304)
Hi Experts,

I have applied for 189 (under 261313) on 6-march-19 with 75 points and 190 NSW with 80 points. However, now looking at the current trend of EOI movement i am thinking of claiming 5 additional points for partner's skill. I have few questions/doubts and i will be highly grateful if you could answer below questions:

1) My wife is an electronics engineer (but no relevant experience) and an MBA finance with 4 years of relevant experience. Both the codes electronics engineer and accountant (general) are in same skills list as mine. So i can claim 5 points with any of the positive skills assessment (electronics engineer or accountant)?

2) Is an MBA finance degree (from India) is enough to get the positive skills assessment from CPA? If any member with past experience could comment.
We want to go ahead with the accountant skill assessment as turnaround time as well as fees are quite low when compared to EA.

3) Do we need to show relevant experience as well to claim partner's point? as my wife doesn't have experience as electronics engineer but she has 4 years of experience as financial analyst (accountant general) so should i go ahead with accountant? Though, i have checked website of Engineers Australia and CPA both and for skills assessment they don't need relevant experience (like ACS)

4) and most important - on DOHA site i found following rules
Partner skills

You can receive five points if, when you are invited to apply for this visa, your partner provides evidence that they:

a) were under 45 years old
b) had competent English
c) had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation
d) had a suitable skills assessment from the relevant assessing authority for their nominated skilled occupation, and the assessment wasn’t for a Subclass 485 visa.

If i understand the highlighted text correctly, i can claim partners point now and i only have to show evidence when i am invited to apply, is this understanding correct? or should i get the positive skills assessment before claiming partner's point in my EOI?

This will make a great difference as i will lose 5 points from 1 Nov because of age and want to have an invite in hand hopefully before that.

Please provide you inputs on above questions. any other comments/suggestions are also most welcome :)

Hi Akshay.

Hope you get the answers to your queries. Unfortunately, I can't answer any of your questions; rather I have a question for you.

My wife to be has also been working as a financial analyst/manager in a bank for 4 years. Her qualifications are B Sc. IT and MBA in Marketing.

I was thinking of getting her assessed as a Financial Investment Manager or a Financial Institution Branch Manager but both of them aren't a part of the MLTSSL.

Are you sure we can get our respective spouses assessed as an Accountant (General)? Do the roles and responsibilities match?

akshaypuri05 11th July 2019 07:48 AM

Hi Kunsal,

I am no expert on this but can comment based on my research on the same in last few days. If you check CPA (assessing authority for accountants) website, they have mentioned a list of subjects that must be covered in someone's degree to have a positive assessment. So you can check the transcript (MBA) with that list and figure out yourself but for a marketing MBA i doubt that list will match :(.

BSC IT might have landed you a positive assessment from ACS but you will need atleast 2 years of relevant experience to show.

So, i think you are also in a tricky situation like me!

NB 11th July 2019 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshaypuri05 (Post 14904304)
Hi Experts,

I have applied for 189 (under 261313) on 6-march-19 with 75 points and 190 NSW with 80 points. However, now looking at the current trend of EOI movement i am thinking of claiming 5 additional points for partner's skill. I have few questions/doubts and i will be highly grateful if you could answer below questions:

1) My wife is an electronics engineer (but no relevant experience) and an MBA finance with 4 years of relevant experience. Both the codes electronics engineer and accountant (general) are in same skills list as mine. So i can claim 5 points with any of the positive skills assessment (electronics engineer or accountant)?

2) Is an MBA finance degree (from India) is enough to get the positive skills assessment from CPA? If any member with past experience could comment.
We want to go ahead with the accountant skill assessment as turnaround time as well as fees are quite low when compared to EA.

3) Do we need to show relevant experience as well to claim partner's point? as my wife doesn't have experience as electronics engineer but she has 4 years of experience as financial analyst (accountant general) so should i go ahead with accountant? Though, i have checked website of Engineers Australia and CPA both and for skills assessment they don't need relevant experience (like ACS)

4) and most important - on DOHA site i found following rules
Partner skills

You can receive five points if, when you are invited to apply for this visa, your partner provides evidence that they:

a) were under 45 years old
b) had competent English
c) had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation
d) had a suitable skills assessment from the relevant assessing authority for their nominated skilled occupation, and the assessment wasn’t for a Subclass 485 visa.

If i understand the highlighted text correctly, i can claim partners point now and i only have to show evidence when i am invited to apply, is this understanding correct? or should i get the positive skills assessment before claiming partner's point in my EOI?

This will make a great difference as i will lose 5 points from 1 Nov because of age and want to have an invite in hand hopefully before that.

Please provide you inputs on above questions. any other comments/suggestions are also most welcome :)

1. YES

2. No idea

3. No experience necessary as long as she gets positive assessment from the skills assessment agency
See the website of the agencies for their experience requirements to give a positive assessment

4. You can claim points only when you fulfill all the 4 conditions. So get the skills assessment and English score in hand and then only claim points

Cheers

kunsal 11th July 2019 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshaypuri05 (Post 14904484)
Hi Kunsal,

I am no expert on this but can comment based on my research on the same in last few days. If you check CPA (assessing authority for accountants) website, they have mentioned a list of subjects that must be covered in someone's degree to have a positive assessment. So you can check the transcript (MBA) with that list and figure out yourself but for a marketing MBA i doubt that list will match :(.

BSC IT might have landed you a positive assessment from ACS but you will need atleast 2 years of relevant experience to show.

So, i think you are also in a tricky situation like me!

Thanks for the quick response, Akshay.

Yes, seems I too am in a tricky situation. Been looking for a way for some days now to get 5 points from my partner's qualification and experience.

Just a quick question, to get a positive assessment from CPA or any other assessing authority, can either a qualification assessment or an experience assessment suffice or do I have to get both the qualification and the experience assessed?

akshaypuri05 11th July 2019 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NB (Post 14904488)
1. YES

2. No idea

3. No experience necessary as long as she gets positive assessment from the skills assessment agency
See the website of the agencies for their experience requirements to give a positive assessment

4. You can claim points only when you fulfill all the 4 conditions. So get the skills assessment and English score in hand and then only claim points

Cheers

Thanks NB for replying, your are the savior :)
Will start working on point 4) asap

akshaypuri05 11th July 2019 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NB (Post 14904488)
1. YES

2. No idea

3. No experience necessary as long as she gets positive assessment from the skills assessment agency
See the website of the agencies for their experience requirements to give a positive assessment

4. You can claim points only when you fulfill all the 4 conditions. So get the skills assessment and English score in hand and then only claim points

Cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunsal (Post 14904496)
Thanks for the quick response, Akshay.

Yes, seems I too am in a tricky situation. Been looking for a way for some days now to get 5 points from my partner's qualification and experience.

Just a quick question, to get a positive assessment from CPA or any other assessing authority, can either a qualification assessment or an experience assessment suffice or do I have to get both the qualification and the experience assessed?

As NB replied to my question (you can also check CPA website) it is a sequential process for Accountants. First you need to get the skill assessment done (that is based on education) if that is positive then only you can apply for employment
assessment. To claim partner's point employment assessment is not necessary in this case.
On that other hand, for ACS assessment you need both education and relevant work to get a positive result. So by default you have to show both.

kunsal 11th July 2019 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshaypuri05 (Post 14904512)
As NB replied to my question (you can also check CPA website) it is a sequential process for Accountants. First you need to get the skill assessment done (that is based on education) if that is positive then only you can apply for employment
assessment. To claim partner's point employment assessment is not necessary in this case.
On that other hand, for ACS assessment you need both education and relevant work to get a positive result. So by default you have to show both.

Thanks Akshay for the information. :)

I'm doing some research on the matter. Will take the help of the forum by creating a new thread.

Arunaravind 11th July 2019 09:01 PM

Hello,

Could someone please help me in understanding if I can claim partner points-
My wife has BE degree in Electronics and Communications. However, her work experience is in HR and Support field, hence totally unrelated. She has a total work experience of 4 years 8 months. But her last job was in 2014, so she has been unemployed for the last 5 years.
What are our chances, when it comes to claiming spouse points? Is it possible that we can submit for skill assessment of her degree alone, without considering her work experience as it is not related?
I am the primary applicant - 233211 Civil engineer.
Both our job codes fall in the same category.

Please help!

Thanks,
Arun

NB 12th July 2019 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arunaravind (Post 14905004)
Hello,

Could someone please help me in understanding if I can claim partner points-
My wife has BE degree in Electronics and Communications. However, her work experience is in HR and Support field, hence totally unrelated. She has a total work experience of 4 years 8 months. But her last job was in 2014, so she has been unemployed for the last 5 years.
What are our chances, when it comes to claiming spouse points? Is it possible that we can submit for skill assessment of her degree alone, without considering her work experience as it is not related?
I am the primary applicant - 233211 Civil engineer.
Both our job codes fall in the same category.

Please help!

Thanks,
Arun

You have to get her skills assessment done to claim spouse points
Just having her degree assessed, will not help you

1. Identify the Anzsco code that meets her RnR the best
2. Then check the requirements of the code to get a positive assessment
3. Then see if she meets it or not

Cheers


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