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Vinuyash 17th September 2019 05:25 PM

Can anyone help me in understanding in claiming partner points for 189 visa.

Myself the primary holder with (261312 Developer Programmer- MLTSSL) with Electronics and communication engineering having 8 years work exp in India and 1 year in Australia.

My wife has BE degree in computer science engineering and 4 years of work experience as a software tester (so 261313 Software Tester - Combined list of eligible skilled occupations)

I have PTE 20 points and applied for ACS verification.

Clarifications on ACS:
Do partner skill verification is required? if so, how much points I can claim?

Clarification on 189 Visa:
Both our job codes falls in a different category? will that be a problem for claiming partner visa?
A partner should give PTE is that mandatory?

(As we already have 75 points without partner PTE. Please suggest should I need to wait for partner points (5/10) then apply for 189 visa.?

If I get partner points which is th right time to apply (before November 2019 or after November 2019)

Please help!

Thanks,
Vinod Yashas

NB 18th September 2019 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinuyash (Post 14951522)
Can anyone help me in understanding in claiming partner points for 189 visa.

Myself the primary holder with (261312 Developer Programmer- MLTSSL) with Electronics and communication engineering having 8 years work exp in India and 1 year in Australia.

My wife has BE degree in computer science engineering and 4 years of work experience as a software tester (so 261313 Software Tester - Combined list of eligible skilled occupations)

I have PTE 20 points and applied for ACS verification.

Clarifications on ACS:
Do partner skill verification is required? if so, how much points I can claim?

Clarification on 189 Visa:
Both our job codes falls in a different category? will that be a problem for claiming partner visa?
A partner should give PTE is that mandatory?

(As we already have 75 points without partner PTE. Please suggest should I need to wait for partner points (5/10) then apply for 189 visa.?

If I get partner points which is th right time to apply (before November 2019 or after November 2019)

Please help!

Thanks,
Vinod Yashas

Software tester is 261314 not 261313
You have to be very careful in quoting Anzsco codes or you will get wrong answers

If your wife did automated testing, she can get assessed under 261313 as software engineer
If not, she can get assessed under 261314
If you want to claim spouse points, she has to get a positive skills assessment and competent English score

Under 261313, you can claim spouse points under 189 and 190 both
Under 261314 you can claim spouse points only under 190
Skilled spouse points are 5 currently but will go upto 10 from 16 November

You can submit your application right away and add the spouse points as and when she becomes eligible
I hope you are aware that You can claim 5 points for spouse English without any skills assessment if she has a competent English score from 16 nov


Cheers

Vinuyash 18th September 2019 02:38 AM

Thank you, for clarifications.

My wife worked in automation testing but the designation they are given is Senior Software Test Engineer. Can we get assessed under 261313? Will, there will be any problem? What is the proof we have to submit for ACS.
We have already got a letter with roles and responsibilities from a company with letterhead and some automation testing points mentioned in the letter.

And, First company she worked for automation project but as per company, they have given a designation as a software test engineer.
What is the proof we can submit for that for ACS?
And moreover, the company is closed and we got her colleague contact but she works in different company. Can we get statutory attested from her colleague?

For your above answer - Under 261314 you can claim spouse points only under 190
IF she has to get a positive skills assessment and competent English score can we able to apply in 189??

Hoping im disturbing you lot.

Thanks,
Vinod Yash

NB 18th September 2019 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinuyash (Post 14951720)
Thank you, for clarifications.

My wife worked in automation testing but the designation they are given is Senior Software Test Engineer. Can we get assessed under 261313? Will, there will be any problem? What is the proof we have to submit for ACS.
We have already got a letter with roles and responsibilities from a company with letterhead and some automation testing points mentioned in the letter.

And, First company she worked for automation project but as per company, they have given a designation as a software test engineer.
What is the proof we can submit for that for ACS?
And moreover, the company is closed and we got her colleague contact but she works in different company. Can we get statutory attested from her colleague?

For your above answer - Under 261314 you can claim spouse points only under 190
IF she has to get a positive skills assessment and competent English score can we able to apply in 189??

Hoping im disturbing you lot.

Thanks,
Vinod Yash

Whether she will get a positive assessment under software engineer or not, will depend on the assessor in ACS
But based on what you have written the chances are there
It’s a risk worth taking
Unless she gets a positive assessment under 261313 , she cannot be a primary applicant under 189 and neither can you claim spouse points
You can get a colleague SD also if the company is closed

It is the RNR which is important and not the designation
But make sure that you don’t fabricate the RnR just to get a positive assessment
You should have experience letter and salary slips etc.
Read the ACS guidelines to understand what all you need to apply for ACS assessment

https://www.acs.org.au/content/dam/a...Aug%202018.pdf

Also go through this thread carefully

https://www.expatforum.com/expats/au...ead-first.html

Cheers

VineethViswan 18th September 2019 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinuyash (Post 14951720)
Thank you, for clarifications.

My wife worked in automation testing but the designation they are given is Senior Software Test Engineer. Can we get assessed under 261313? Will, there will be any problem? What is the proof we have to submit for ACS.
We have already got a letter with roles and responsibilities from a company with letterhead and some automation testing points mentioned in the letter.

And, First company she worked for automation project but as per company, they have given a designation as a software test engineer.
What is the proof we can submit for that for ACS?
And moreover, the company is closed and we got her colleague contact but she works in different company. Can we get statutory attested from her colleague?

For your above answer - Under 261314 you can claim spouse points only under 190
IF she has to get a positive skills assessment and competent English score can we able to apply in 189??

Hoping im disturbing you lot.

Thanks,
Vinod Yash

Hi Vinuyash,

Reading about your case, I would like to have a discussion with you on some things regarding spouse skill assessment.

Myself an Electrical engineer and the primary applicant, whereas my spouse is an Electronics and Communications engineer graduate with 30 months experience in India in an MNC dealing with vehicle automation works. She is pursuing her masters in Australia right now.

The confusion I am facing now is that her designation in the company was 'Software Engineer' even though the work she did was related to embedded system and testing stuff in MATLAB and all. Her appointment letter mentions her designation as a 'Graduate Engineer Trainee', and her experience letter mentions 'Software Engineer'.

I consulted with an agent, who advised to prepare 3 CDRs explaining her academic project (which is electronics based) and work experience emphasising the electronics related work she did in her professional career and submit to EA under ANZSCO:233411 Electronics Engineer.

I was planning to get a specific role and responsibility letter from her company (since her experience cum relieving letter only specifies her designation and salary at the time of relieving) with her electronics-related role highlighted so EA can understand that though her designation was Software Engineer, she worked on Electronics related stuff.

Any light you can shed on this please Vinuyash/NB?

__________________
ANZSCO: 233311 (Electrical Engineer)

Points: 75 (Age: 30 | English: 20 | Degree: 15 | Experience: 10)
EA Submitted: 3 June 2019 | EA +ve Result: 29 August 2019
PTE (1st Attempt) Date: 12 May 2019 | PTE Score: (L 79, R 79, S 83, W 81)
EOI (189 & 190 VIC): 30 August 2019 |

VineethViswan 19th September 2019 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VineethViswan (Post 14951934)
Hi Vinuyash,

Reading about your case, I would like to have a discussion with you on some things regarding spouse skill assessment.

Myself an Electrical engineer and the primary applicant, whereas my spouse is an Electronics and Communications engineer graduate with 30 months experience in India in an MNC dealing with vehicle automation works. She is pursuing her masters in Australia right now.

The confusion I am facing now is that her designation in the company was 'Software Engineer' even though the work she did was related to embedded system and testing stuff in MATLAB and all. Her appointment letter mentions her designation as a 'Graduate Engineer Trainee', and her experience letter mentions 'Software Engineer'.

I consulted with an agent, who advised to prepare 3 CDRs explaining her academic project (which is electronics based) and work experience emphasising the electronics related work she did in her professional career and submit to EA under ANZSCO:233411 Electronics Engineer.

I was planning to get a specific role and responsibility letter from her company (since her experience cum relieving letter only specifies her designation and salary at the time of relieving) with her electronics-related role highlighted so EA can understand that though her designation was Software Engineer, she worked on Electronics related stuff.

Any light you can shed on this please Vinuyash/NB?

__________________
ANZSCO: 233311 (Electrical Engineer)

Points: 75 (Age: 30 | English: 20 | Degree: 15 | Experience: 10)
EA Submitted: 3 June 2019 | EA +ve Result: 29 August 2019
PTE (1st Attempt) Date: 12 May 2019 | PTE Score: (L 79, R 79, S 83, W 81)
EOI (189 & 190 VIC): 30 August 2019 |

Any expertise can clarify?

Pathpk 19th September 2019 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VineethViswan (Post 14951934)
Hi Vinuyash,

Reading about your case, I would like to have a discussion with you on some things regarding spouse skill assessment.

Myself an Electrical engineer and the primary applicant, whereas my spouse is an Electronics and Communications engineer graduate with 30 months experience in India in an MNC dealing with vehicle automation works. She is pursuing her masters in Australia right now.

The confusion I am facing now is that her designation in the company was 'Software Engineer' even though the work she did was related to embedded system and testing stuff in MATLAB and all. Her appointment letter mentions her designation as a 'Graduate Engineer Trainee', and her experience letter mentions 'Software Engineer'.

I consulted with an agent, who advised to prepare 3 CDRs explaining her academic project (which is electronics based) and work experience emphasising the electronics related work she did in her professional career and submit to EA under ANZSCO:233411 Electronics Engineer.

I was planning to get a specific role and responsibility letter from her company (since her experience cum relieving letter only specifies her designation and salary at the time of relieving) with her electronics-related role highlighted so EA can understand that though her designation was Software Engineer, she worked on Electronics related stuff.

Any light you can shed on this please Vinuyash/NB?

__________________
ANZSCO: 233311 (Electrical Engineer)

Points: 75 (Age: 30 | English: 20 | Degree: 15 | Experience: 10)
EA Submitted: 3 June 2019 | EA +ve Result: 29 August 2019
PTE (1st Attempt) Date: 12 May 2019 | PTE Score: (L 79, R 79, S 83, W 81)
EOI (189 & 190 VIC): 30 August 2019 |

The roles and responsibilities have to strongly match the ANZSCO u r applying for, designation is irrelevant.

VineethViswan 19th September 2019 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathpk (Post 14952848)
The roles and responsibilities have to strongly match the ANZSCO u r applying for, designation is irrelevant.

Ok. Thank you.

Vinuyash 27th September 2019 06:26 AM

Hi NB,

Urgent help required.

My wife got a statutory declaration from India with ex-colleague on E stamp paper and did a notary.

Now we stay in Sydney and applying for ACS for my wife.

Do we need to get attested in Indian embassy here also or just a JP signature is enough for E stamp paper(Notary is done).

NB 27th September 2019 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinuyash (Post 14957570)
Hi NB,

Urgent help required.

My wife got a statutory declaration from India with ex-colleague on E stamp paper and did a notary.

Now we stay in Sydney and applying for ACS for my wife.

Do we need to get attested in Indian embassy here also or just a JP signature is enough for E stamp paper(Notary is done).

Once a notary is done in india, it does not even require a JP signature again
You can scan it as it is

Cheers


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