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NB 14th July 2019 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RichaBhardwaj (Post 14906334)
Thanks for your quick response sir but if I get RnR matched to the Media Specialist from his organization then can we consider it a positive case ?

And wanted to confirm on another case, where I submit his non-relevant experience - Experience in TV Channels , Sales etc. Will it not result in positive assessment ?

You should not go for a fabricated RnR
If there is an employment verification, you will be in serious trouble
DHA is very strict nowadays

I have no idea about your other questions
You will probably need to consult an agent to get your questions answered

Cheers

RichaBhardwaj 14th July 2019 05:19 AM

Thanks NB for your response.

m.mohamedyusuff 17th July 2019 12:40 AM

Dear Experts,

Since this topic has been extended to discuss about everyone's query, let me add mine too here to discuss about the possibilities of my wife's skill assessment.

My wife holds a Bachelor Degree in English Language & Literature (B.A English) from India and also holds a Fundamental Certificate in Early Childhood Care Education (FECCE - 4 months part time course) from Singapore. She had worked as a Primary Teacher for 2 years in India, and 1.5 years as Preschool Assistant Teacher in Singapore. I understand from AITSL that the minimum requirement to qualify for an assessment is to either have a 4 Years Degree in Education or 3 years Any Degree with 1 Year Post Graduate in Education along with IELTS 8877 band, and Level 3 Certificate for Early Childhood (If I'm correct).

Though she doesn't meet the minimum qualifications, with her work experiences, does she have a chance to get positive assessment from AITSL?

Has anyone had relevant experiences in the past with AITSL assessment?

Thanks in advance.

Yusuff.

Cool123 17th July 2019 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by akshaypuri05 (Post 14904304)
Hi Experts,

I have applied for 189 (under 261313) on 6-march-19 with 75 points and 190 NSW with 80 points. However, now looking at the current trend of EOI movement i am thinking of claiming 5 additional points for partner's skill. I have few questions/doubts and i will be highly grateful if you could answer below questions:

1) My wife is an electronics engineer (but no relevant experience) and an MBA finance with 4 years of relevant experience. Both the codes electronics engineer and accountant (general) are in same skills list as mine. So i can claim 5 points with any of the positive skills assessment (electronics engineer or accountant)?

2) Is an MBA finance degree (from India) is enough to get the positive skills assessment from CPA? If any member with past experience could comment.
We want to go ahead with the accountant skill assessment as turnaround time as well as fees are quite low when compared to EA.

3) Do we need to show relevant experience as well to claim partner's point? as my wife doesn't have experience as electronics engineer but she has 4 years of experience as financial analyst (accountant general) so should i go ahead with accountant? Though, i have checked website of Engineers Australia and CPA both and for skills assessment they don't need relevant experience (like ACS)

4) and most important - on DOHA site i found following rules
Partner skills

You can receive five points if, when you are invited to apply for this visa, your partner provides evidence that they:

a) were under 45 years old
b) had competent English
c) had nominated a skilled occupation that is on the same skilled occupation list as your nominated skilled occupation
d) had a suitable skills assessment from the relevant assessing authority for their nominated skilled occupation, and the assessment wasnít for a Subclass 485 visa.

If i understand the highlighted text correctly, i can claim partners point now and i only have to show evidence when i am invited to apply, is this understanding correct? or should i get the positive skills assessment before claiming partner's point in my EOI?

This will make a great difference as i will lose 5 points from 1 Nov because of age and want to have an invite in hand hopefully before that.

Please provide you inputs on above questions. any other comments/suggestions are also most welcome :)

Hi, My case is also same. My wife has MBA finance degree from India, but not having any experience. My occupation code is 261313. Which occupation code you will suggest me for skill assessment of my spouse? Please guide me here.

axanup 17th July 2019 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by akshaypuri05 (Post 14904512)
As NB replied to my question (you can also check CPA website) it is a sequential process for Accountants. First you need to get the skill assessment done (that is based on education) if that is positive then only you can apply for employment
assessment. To claim partner's point employment assessment is not necessary in this case.
On that other hand, for ACS assessment you need both education and relevant work to get a positive result. So by default you have to show both.

To claim partner's point employment assessment is not necessary in this case - does it mean only education assessment is enough for claiming partner points?

Also, if the spouse has only 1 year of relevant employment experience - will I still be able to claim partner points?

NB 17th July 2019 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axanup (Post 14908652)
To claim partner's point employment assessment is not necessary in this case - does it mean only education assessment is enough for claiming partner points?

Also, if the spouse has only 1 year of relevant employment experience - will I still be able to claim partner points?

Your spouse need to get a positive skills assessment in a Anzsco code which is under MLTSSL for you to claim points under 189
The requirements of experience required to get a positive skills assessment varies between Anzsco codes and the agency

So once you have identified the Anzsco code, your spouse would like to apply under, then you can check the requirements for that code and determine if she would get a positive assessment or not

Cheers

axanup 17th July 2019 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NB (Post 14908654)
Your spouse need to get a positive skills assessment in a Anzsco code which is under MLTSSL for you to claim points under 189
The requirements of experience required to get a positive skills assessment varies between Anzsco codes and the agency

So once you have identified the Anzsco code, your spouse would like to apply under, then you can check the requirements for that code and determine if she would get a positive assessment or not

Cheers

Thanks for the clarity.

m.mohamedyusuff 17th July 2019 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m.mohamedyusuff (Post 14908466)
Dear Experts,

Since this topic has been extended to discuss about everyone's query, let me add mine too here to discuss about the possibilities of my wife's skill assessment.

My wife holds a Bachelor Degree in English Language & Literature (B.A English) from India and also holds a Fundamental Certificate in Early Childhood Care Education (FECCE - 4 months part time course) from Singapore. She had worked as a Primary Teacher for 2 years in India, and 1.5 years as Preschool Assistant Teacher in Singapore. I understand from AITSL that the minimum requirement to qualify for an assessment is to either have a 4 Years Degree in Education or 3 years Any Degree with 1 Year Post Graduate in Education along with IELTS 8877 band, and Level 3 Certificate for Early Childhood (If I'm correct).

Though she doesn't meet the minimum qualifications, with her work experiences, does she have a chance to get positive assessment from AITSL?

Has anyone had relevant experiences in the past with AITSL assessment?

Thanks in advance.

Yusuff.

I think my query has been missed to notice. Could some experts please shed some light on my query?

Thanks.

NB 17th July 2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m.mohamedyusuff (Post 14908466)
Dear Experts,

Since this topic has been extended to discuss about everyone's query, let me add mine too here to discuss about the possibilities of my wife's skill assessment.

My wife holds a Bachelor Degree in English Language & Literature (B.A English) from India and also holds a Fundamental Certificate in Early Childhood Care Education (FECCE - 4 months part time course) from Singapore. She had worked as a Primary Teacher for 2 years in India, and 1.5 years as Preschool Assistant Teacher in Singapore. I understand from AITSL that the minimum requirement to qualify for an assessment is to either have a 4 Years Degree in Education or 3 years Any Degree with 1 Year Post Graduate in Education along with IELTS 8877 band, and Level 3 Certificate for Early Childhood (If I'm correct).

Though she doesn't meet the minimum qualifications, with her work experiences, does she have a chance to get positive assessment from AITSL?

Has anyone had relevant experiences in the past with AITSL assessment?

Thanks in advance.

Yusuff.

You are asking something which you very well know is not possible
There is no ambiguity
Thatís why no one is responding

Cheers

m.mohamedyusuff 17th July 2019 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NB (Post 14909132)
You are asking something which you very well know is not possible
There is no ambiguity
Thatís why no one is responding

Cheers

:) Thanks NB. These are just my findings, and wanted to get it confirmed from someone who had a similar experience, but unfortunately, I'm being the only one so far, and as you said, it is clearly not possible to get my wife's skill assessed with positive outcome from AITSL, so I have to wait with 75 points to get invited by November this year.

Thanks for your reply.

Cheers.

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189 - 75
ANZSCO: 261313
DOE: 9 July 2019
Age: 30 points (until Dec 7)
Edu: 15 points
Work: 10 points (15 in Nov 2020)
PTE: 20 points (9 July 2019)

190 - 75 + 5 (SS)
Applied for all states.


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