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It won't make any difference. It is the quota that matters.

Whatever score will be the new minimum will still represent the same as what we have today. Slight change within the queue of who is in front of who but that is very minor. Skilled immigration is closed.
What do you mean by skilled migration is closed?

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What do you mean by skilled migration is closed?

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Sorry for being vague in the expression. I just mean that practically it can be considered closed for most of us as the point intake will continue to be so high.

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Sorry for being vague in the expression. I just mean that practically it can be considered closed for most of us as the point intake will continue to be so high.
What about the new 491 regional visa, aren't they going to invite anyone via that route as well or the existing 489 visa till November?

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Some members seem utterly downhearted for an invite for 189 at 75. Keeping in view the invitation round trends for previous years, one can see that July-March are rich in invitations and even 70 pointers invites.

Be positive and have faith in yourself, 75 pointers will surely get through till Nov-Dec 2019.
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Some members seem utterly downhearted for an invite for 189 at 75. Keeping in view the invitation round trends for previous years, one can see that July-March are rich in invitations and even 70 pointers invites.

Be positive and have faith in yourself, 75 pointers will surely get through till Nov-Dec 2019.
I think people are nervous because they believe the number of invites per round will be lower than other years. Add to that the backlog of very high points over the past months and they have serious concerns.

I got invited a few years back now, and saw the same pattern emerge since 2015. Each year the bar went higher, and each year people said "don't worry, it will come down again by November".

IMO they are really pushing for people to take regional visas. I suspect 189 is really only to be for the high point scorers (who I don't view as the best of the best, TBH)
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I think people are nervous because they believe the number of invites per round will be lower than other years. Add to that the backlog of very high points over the past months and they have serious concerns.

I got invited a few years back now, and saw the same pattern emerge since 2015. Each year the bar went higher, and each year people said "don't worry, it will come down again by November".

IMO they are really pushing for people to take regional visas. I suspect 189 is really only to be for the high point scorers (who I don't view as the best of the best, TBH)
Couldn't agree more with you.. My local experience is worth only 10 points over an english test which is 20.. it just doesnt make sense...

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What about the new 491 regional visa, aren't they going to invite anyone via that route as well or the existing 489 visa till November?

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Even with 491 visa, there are only 14,000 places for skilled independent. Since the competition in 189 is so fierce and so many people waiting to get invite for the last 4 months, 189 will be taken by 85/90 pointers. A lot of the 491 will go to 85/90 pointers also as they will apply for both visa as it always happens as a back up (they may move to 189 once that one comes also but once visa is issued, it is counted and hence DoHA is not going to reissue visa again, so even less than what it is). Very few will thus be left for 75 pointers to have any chance. And don't forget 14K is basically 8K or so after counting spouses and children. So, 1200/month invite number is what we will be looking at this year.

From next years it will be 8000/12 = 750/month so even worse.

Lets not forget, 491 is basically the visa for 75 pointers and higher who can't get 189. It's just 189 getting split and reduced from 42K to 18+14=32K now. So, whatever people got last year, it will even be less. And since it's starting in Nov, the queue will be so huge, I don't see any movement for 75 pointers at all. Maybe next year, but then the points requirement will go high since so many people waiting again and less invite numbers.

Till the supply is same or more than demand, points will not come down or stay same at all. And it ain't happening. Hence, people at 75 points unless you are single and have possibility to increase points, have a different approach like 190 or employer sponsored or different country.


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Given that 491 is (apparently) designed to ease pressure on Melbourne and Sydney and disperse immigrants, I'm interested to see what the response will be for the 190s.

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A lot of the 491 will go to 85/90 pointers also as they will apply for both visa as it always happens as a back up (they may move to 189 once that one comes also but once visa is issued, it is counted and hence DoHA is not going to reissue visa again, so even less than what it is).
I'm not so sure. 491 is likely to be a pretty involved process and I imagine a similar cost to 189, 190 & 489. You'd have to be pretty desperate (and wealthy) to actually go through the process of applying for 491, and then do it all again for 189. So I guess someone could hold on to a 491 invite for a few weeks in the hope of scoring a 189, but I wouldn't think that's too significant a number. Holding a 190 as insurance? Maybe. A 491? I don't know....

Regardless, the shape of Australian immigration is shifting again. Good luck to all involved.

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For the year 2019-20, the quota of Visa has come down from 43000 to 18000.
The number of invites for 43000 visas during 18-19 was 23000. Keeping the same ratio of invites to quota, we are looking at 10000 invites for the whole year. Knock down 2000 quota for NZ stream, we are looking 8000 invites for the whole year.
During 18-19, 5900 Invites were sent to those who had 80 points and above, this would also included some percentage of wasted invites. So keeping all else the same ( ignore the November point system change ) we are looking at 6k invites to 80 and above and a measly 2k invites to all those at 75 for the upcoming year.
However those at 75 -80 points being single will surely stand to gain come November.

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Couldn't agree more with you.. My local experience is worth only 10 points over an english test which is 20.. it just doesnt make sense...
I don't know man.. I'd say having a grasp on the local language is pretty important. What does your local experience bring to the table?
Not trying to goad you, genuinely asking.

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