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Old 16th February 2013, 03:58 PM
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You would think that they would propose an occupation code that does match, but ACS has told us multiple times that they will not do that. They say it is up to us to select the appropriate code.
After looking at the contents of your refference letters, I would suggest that you should get your skills assessed against ANZSCO Code: 313112 i.e. ICT Customer Support Officer.

Ifyou look at the job description on immigration department's website, you will know exactly how much you need to tweek your refference letters. [Ref]http://www.immi.gov.au/asri/occupations/i/ict-customer-support-officer.htm


Another thing that you need to know is the education requirements against each job code. You can find the education related details on assessment criteria document, which can be found on following link:

http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/...ly-2012-V1.pdf

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Hi Monima,
Sorry to hear you struggle with ACS. I obtained my 10 years positive assessment from ACS last year for 261111. I read the reference letter you posted and I can suggest you to be more solid and detailed. Here is a part of my job description which I wrote myself and approved it to the HR department. May be you can use this as a template for yourself. I hope I can help in some way. Best of luck!

To whom it may concern,

We declare that [Name] has been working in [Company] in [City/Country] since [Date] until today as a full time (45 hours/week) employee. She worked in the IT department as a [Title] between [Date]. She was later promoted to [Title] in [Date] where she held this position until [Date] and was promoted once more to [Title] position. She took the role of [Title] in [Date] which she currently holds.


Her responsibilities as [Title] since [Date] are:

- Assuring professional project competency by establishing and maintaining models, processes, templates and best practices for IT project management.
- Enforcing SDLC (Systems Development Life Cycle) standards and required regulations to projects.
- Responsible for collecting and analyzing all types of IT related requests from internal customers.
- Couching internal customers for preparing user requirements specifications.
- Responsible for creating functional specifications with internal customers.
- Proactively communicating and collaborating with internal customers to create system and software solutions based on user requirements specifications.
- Collaborating with developers and subject matter experts to establish the technical vision and analyze tradeoffs between usability and performance needs.
- Organizing meetings with related stakeholders and informing all stakeholders of project progress on regular basis.
- Couching consultants for preparing business blueprints, design specifications and configuration specifications.
- Guiding internal customers for preparing and executing test scripts and user manuals.
- Organizing end-user trainings before system go-live.
- Responsible for keeping all project documentation up-to-date (User Requirements Specifications (URS), Business Blueprints, Risk Analysis, Functional and Design Specifications, Functional Testing, Requirements Traceability Matrix)
- Managing, generating and reviewing global/local policies, standards, procedures based on Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP), ITIL and ISO regulations.
- Responsible for creating and revising IT department budget.
- Outsourcing Relationship Management (ORM).
- Managing SLA’s with external service providers.

She managed the following projects with her [Title] Role:
• [Project 1]
• [Project 2]
• [Project 3]
• [Project 4]
• [Project 5]

She supported the following projects with her [Title] Role:
• [Project 1]
• [Project 2]
Thanks Serpin! This is the way we need to go. My husband was hired into a more client service role, but this soon changed into ICT Business Analyst. The problem is that HR doesn't have clear records of this and they only write what's in their outdated records. Maybe something that specifically addresses the progression upwards and into the role would be best.

Hopefully we can track down old employees to get this!
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Thank you to everyone for your advice and assistance. We will have to take another shot at getting the letters to be more detailed and specific (without the fluff).

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Hi Serpin,

I am really confused about choosing between ICT Business analyst and System Analyst. Please guide me to choose the right one.

All my work experience are into ITIL domain the roles i have performed are IT Change Manager and Incident Manager. Please let me know if you require roles and responsibilities for the same


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Hi Serpin,

I am really confused about choosing between ICT Business analyst and System Analyst. Please guide me to choose the right one.

All my work experience are into ITIL domain the roles i have performed are IT Change Manager and Incident Manager. Please let me know if you require roles and responsibilities for the same


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Hi Satish,
IMO, IT Change Manager and Incident Manager role definitely does not match system analyst. I think you should stick with business analyst and define your responsibilities in detail to cover atleast %70-%80 of business analyst role description stated in the abs website:
1220.0 - ANZSCO - Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations, First Edition, 2006

My post above is only one of my job descriptions. In my previous role I also had the duty of change management. As long as your descriptions match, I'm sure you won't be having any problem with the 261111.

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That was super quick response, many thanks.

And one more question about RPL my qualification ( BA Economics) is not relavant to ICT however i have completed ITIL V3 foundation and PRINCE2 Practitioner certified will they consider these certification as equivalent ICT qualification , if no, which option i should go for in RPL ?

How is the demand for ICT business analyst in Australia any idea?

I will go with Business analyst.

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That was super quick response, many thanks.

And one more question about RPL my qualification ( BA Economics) is not relavant to ICT however i have completed ITIL V3 foundation and PRINCE2 Practitioner certified will they consider these certification as equivalent ICT qualification , if no, which option i should go for in RPL ?

How is the demand for ICT business analyst in Australia any idea?

I will go with Business analyst.

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You're welcome

I'm afraid I can't help you with your question regarding your qualifications because I didn't need to deal with RPL as I have bachelor's in Computer Science & Engineering and I know nothing about it. Why don't you post your question on this thread : http://www.expatforum.com/expats/aus...sing-time.html
I'm sure someone will answer your question.

As for the demand for business analysis, there's obviously higher demand in Melbourne and Sydney. You can search on seek.com.au and see for yourself. Victoria also provides state sponsorship. So I hope we get lucky and fing jobs easily

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Thanks for your help!!

Good luck

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That was super quick response, many thanks.

And one more question about RPL my qualification ( BA Economics) is not relavant to ICT however i have completed ITIL V3 foundation and PRINCE2 Practitioner certified will they consider these certification as equivalent ICT qualification , if no, which option i should go for in RPL ?

How is the demand for ICT business analyst in Australia any idea?

I will go with Business analyst.

Regards,
Sathish
Hi Sathish,

My husband has a PRINCE2 certification and ACS told us that they do NOT assess that. They said that they only assess IT related educational qualifications. I don't know if it informally strengthens your professional profile, but they cannot officially endorse it as an ICT Business Analyst qualification.

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Hi Guys,

Need some help for ACS assessment…

I'm functional Consultant working for Oracle Financial services.
I need to apply for ACS assessment under Business Analyst category.

My profile is,

1) 4 Years of Banking Experience
2) 4.8 years of Oracle Experience.
3) My current Job profile with Oracle Financial Services meets the criteria for Business Analyst,
4) I'll be completing 5 Years of Oracle Experience in July'13,
5) I've done my Bachelor of Commerce (Accounts) & MBA Finance (Management Information & Control System - subject was part of my curriculum)
6) I've done NIIT One year Diploma (2 Semester Course)

Queries:
1) I'll be completing five years in IT in July'13, can I apply for assessment now?
2) Am I eligible to apply with ICT minor?
(Considering NIIT one year & Management information system as part of my curriculum)
3) As I said i'm functional consultant, & i got my Oracle job based on my banking experience, will they consider my banking experience??

Pls Help. Thanks in advance.

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