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Yes, you are kind of lucky though that you took that trip that early after your arrival. Imagine if you hadn't taken it at that time and took those additional 65 days during your "09 Aug 2015 to 08 Apr 2016" trip. You'd then have to wait even longer (more than a year from your expected date of lodgement).

Just remember, the general rule is:

From the expected date of lodgement (i.e. the date you intend to apply for citizenship),

1) Count back 1 year. Have you stayed more than 90 days out of Australia during that time?
2) Count back 4 years. have you stayed for more than ~365 days out of Australia during that time?

If you answer yes to any of the above 2 questions, you can't lodge your application on that date.
Thanks mate. now finger's crossed for the june application. hopefully they won't take 14 months to process my application
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I was responding specifically to that poster's situation if you read my post carefully. Their situation was not the same as yours.
Hi Ozbound, I saw that your replies are very direct and helpful. Can you please have a look at my scenario. I have tried DIBP, but they always have conflicting answers

My first entry to Australia (on Student Visa)
9th Jan 2008 to 23rd Dec 2008

Then I went back to my country and stayed outside Australia from 24th Dec'08 to 12 May 2015.

2nd entry in Australia [as Permanent Resident]
13th May 2015

Since then I am in Australia and have not left the country, do you think if I stay continuously till June'18 then I am I will be eligible to apply for my citizenship in June 2018 ???


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Hi Ozbound, I saw that your replies are very direct and helpful. Can you please have a look at my scenario. I have tried DIBP, but they always have conflicting answers

My first entry to Australia (on Student Visa)
9th Jan 2008 to 23rd Dec 2008

Then I went back to my country and stayed outside Australia from 24th Dec'08 to 12 May 2015.

2nd entry in Australia [as Permanent Resident]
13th May 2015

Since then I am in Australia and have not left the country, do you think if I stay continuously till June'18 then I am I will be eligible to apply for my citizenship in June 2018 ???


Have a nice weekend and thanks in Advance
You need to have lived in Australia for 4 years, 1 of which is as a permanent resident, with no absences of more than 1 year and no more than 90 days in the last year before you apply. In your situation, if you arrived in May 2015, the earliest you can apply is May 2019 assuming you are not absent for more than 1 year between now and then.

There is a residence calculator on the DIBP site. https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Ente/...nce-calculator

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Hi ,

Please help me in clarifying the below calculation , m I eligible to go forward for application or I would wait for the date which the calculator is stating.

Permanent Residence Date :11/1/2011
Lawful Residence Date :-13/01/2013
Intended Lodgement Date :- 22/01/2018

Absence dates
From Date To Date
20-Apr-14 25-Jan-15
15-Feb-16 12-Mar-16
4-Sep-16 23-Sep-16
26-Nov-16 21-Jan-17
7-Oct-17 11-Nov-17

After calculation I am getting Lodgement Date : -- 05/06/2018

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Hi ,

Please help me in clarifying the below calculation , m I eligible to go forward for application or I would wait for the date which the calculator is stating.

Permanent Residence Date :11/1/2011
Lawful Residence Date :-13/01/2013
Intended Lodgement Date :- 22/01/2018

Absence dates
From Date To Date
20-Apr-14 25-Jan-15
15-Feb-16 12-Mar-16
4-Sep-16 23-Sep-16
26-Nov-16 21-Jan-17
7-Oct-17 11-Nov-17

After calculation I am getting Lodgement Date : -- 05/06/2018

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You need to have lived in Australia for 4 years, 1 of which is as a permanent resident, with no absences of more than 1 year and no more than 90 days in the last year before you apply. In your situation, if you arrived in May 2015, the earliest you can apply is May 2019 assuming you are not absent for more than 1 year between now and then.

There is a residence calculator on the DIBP site. https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Ente/...nce-calculator
I left Australia on a visit to NZ on 2nd March 2018
I landed back on 4th March 2018

How many days am I absent from Australia ?
1/2/3 days ?

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i left australia on a visit to nz on 2nd march 2018
i landed back on 4th march 2018

how many days am i absent from australia ?
1/2/3 days ?

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4-2 = ...
The description is absent from Australia

So logically I’m on Australian soil on 2nd March as well as 4th March

So shouldn’t it be just 1 day ?
And if even partial absence is counted, then it should b 3 days

I am worried about this as my company is planning to send me to AKL every week for a day for several months

So if it is 2/3 days absence calculations, then over the months it, will add substantially to the total number of days spent outside Australia and delay my citizenship considerably

I will cross the 12 month limit and lose this entire 1.5 to 2 year stay

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The description is absent from Australia

So logically Iím on Australian soil on 2nd March as well as 4th March

So shouldnít it be just 1 day ?
And if even partial absence is counted, then it should b 3 days

I am worried about this as my company is planning to send me to AKL every week for a day for several months

So if it is 2/3 days absence calculations, then over the months it, will add substantially to the total number of days spent outside Australia and delay my citizenship considerably

I will cross the 12 month limit and lose this entire 1.5 to 2 year stay

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They don't analyse your absence down to the hour or the minute. If you leave on the 2nd of March, even if it's at 5am, and return on the 4th at 10pm, that's probably closer to 3 days absence, it's true, but they are not tracking your movements to that level of precision.

You don't 'lose' the year if you have been out of the country for more than 90 days in a year. You just have to wait until a year has passed where you have spent less than 90 days out of the country. It would probably only extend the date by a month or two.

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They don't analyse your absence down to the hour or the minute. If you leave on the 2nd of March, even if it's at 5am, and return on the 4th at 10pm, that's probably closer to 3 days absence, it's true, but they are not tracking your movements to that level of precision.

You don't 'lose' the year if you have been out of the country for more than 90 days in a year. You just have to wait until a year has passed where you have spent less than 90 days out of the country. It would probably only extend the date by a month or two.
I am getting confused
I thought the 90 days rule only applies to the final year

Throughout in any period period of 4 years except the last year i can be out for 364 days also at a stretch , and yet be eligible for citizenship

Is my understanding wrong ?

I had come to Australia for some work in Nov 2016 for a few weeks on a business visa and went back
Then I came again permanently only in June 2017
I wanted to use the period from nov 2016 to June 2017 also towards the 4 years calculations

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