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Old 25th November 2016, 06:11 AM
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I have just received the ITA of subclass 489 which if granted the visa is valid for 4 years.

it has a pathway to 887 given that I have lived in designated area for 2 years with at least 1 year full time job.

although I'm now in the stage of VISA lodgement, I'd like to plan ahead the latest date that I need to move.

now the question is, the processing time of 887 is about 6 months from DIBP website. so does that mean I must reserve another 6 months in additional to fulfil the live and work requirement? to exemplify, if the 489 visa grant date is 1July2017 and expiring on 30Jun2021. the latest date to lodge a 887 application is then 1Jan2021? or actually I can lodge a 887 application right before 1July2021 (say may2021)?

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Once your visa has been approved, from that time you can start counting your days. Once you fulfill the requirements (Work + Staying in regional area) you can apply for 887. For example if you get your visa on 1/1/2017 and fulfill the requirements the earliest you can apply in 2/1/2019. It may take up to 6 months to get your residency. As long as you are working 35+ hours in a week (once you have 489 visa), you are on the right track. Hopefully it will make it clear for your queries.

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Once your visa has been approved, from that time you can start counting your days. Once you fulfill the requirements (Work + Staying in regional area) you can apply for 887. For example if you get your visa on 1/1/2017 and fulfill the requirements the earliest you can apply in 2/1/2019. It may take up to 6 months to get your residency. As long as you are working 35+ hours in a week (once you have 489 visa), you are on the right track. Hopefully it will make it clear for your queries.

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Thank you.

But what if I get my visa on 1/1/2017, but my first arrival is 1/1/2020 (which is the 3rd year after visa grant) such that the 489 visa will expire in 1 year. In this sense, there is no way to fulfil 887 requirement or I can apply for a bridging VISA to stay one more year before meeting 887 requirement?

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Thank you.

But what if I get my visa on 1/1/2017, but my first arrival is 1/1/2020 (which is the 3rd year after visa grant) such that the 489 visa will expire in 1 year. In this sense, there is no way to fulfil 887 requirement or I can apply for a bridging VISA to stay one more year before meeting 887 requirement?
You need to meet the criteria for a 887 visa, which is living two years in a regional area and working one year in a regional area. So you must arrive in Australia at least two years before your 489 visa expires or you won't have enough time to apply.

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You need to meet the criteria for a 887 visa, which is living two years in a regional area and working one year in a regional area. So you must arrive in Australia at least two years before your 489 visa expires or you won't have enough time to apply.
thanks. since it takes some time to get 887 granted... so we should arrive at least 2 years + 887 processing time before 489 visa expires, or just 2 years before 489 visa expires?

sorry for being exact but this will have a great effect on planning the date to move. thank you

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thanks. since it takes some time to get 887 granted... so we should arrive at least 2 years + 887 processing time before 489 visa expires, or just 2 years before 489 visa expires?

sorry for being exact but this will have a great effect on planning the date to move. thank you
Hi,

Once visa granted, it has a first entry date (normally within 6months from visa grant date). So, you must arrive Australia before that Date. After that of course you can return to your home country.

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Once visa granted, it has a first entry date (normally within 6months from visa grant date). So, you must arrive Australia before that Date. After that of course you can return to your home country.
oh thanks I didn't realised that as I thought the first entry date is only applicable to 189/190 as 489 is a provisional one.

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but since I'd like to stay longer in my current country to save more money before moving to Australia, I am trying to figure out what date is the last date that I must go in order to have 2-years living evidence.

So the question is about IF my 489 is expiring at 30Jun2020, and I can only fulfil the 2-years living requirement on 30Jun2020 and hence submission of 887 application can only be made on 1July2020... so what if I can't get a 887 VISA grant after 489 visa expiry date?

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but since I'd like to stay longer in my current country to save more money before moving to Australia, I am trying to figure out what date is the last date that I must go in order to have 2-years living evidence.

So the question is about IF my 489 is expiring at 30Jun2020, and I can only fulfil the 2-years living requirement on 30Jun2020 and hence submission of 887 application can only be made on 1July2020... so what if I can't get a 887 VISA grant after 489 visa expiry date?
Simplify your question dude to get a quick answer

Your question is. Is it allowed to stay after the visa 489 expiration just waiting for your 887 visa ??
As long as u applied for it before the expiry of 489

However i dont know the answer but i tried helping to put the light on the exact question
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thank you. Yes that's my question ^_^
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