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We are currently living in Dublin, Ireland and would love to relocate to Australia. Ideally, we would love permanent residency but would consider going for 18months/2years. We have 2 young kids. I have 10 years experience working with adults with learning/intellectual disabilities as a trainer/senior support worker and my husband is currently working as a police officer (garda). He has previous experience and relevant qualifications as a metal fabricator. We were thinking of trying the mines but would my husband require recent experience? Any advice as to where to locate/ career advice/ visa advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Your husbands historical work experience isn't going to help as you need recent work experience. Non of the aus police are recruiting overseas atm.

Do you have qualifications? There are a few professions you'd match if you had the quals to pass a skills assessment.

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SAPOL used to recruit from overseas, UK mainly. And oh god the competition amount Brits for each position was huge. I think they reached the quota for this year. You'll have to wait and see if the police starts recruiting again next year.

So at this stage it seems state sponsorship or independent is your best bet for permanent residency. What qualifications you both have?

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Hi,
If you're very serious about relocating I'd suggest speaking to a visa agent, when we started looking into this over six years ago we found an agent in London that offered a 'no win no fee' service. They advised us and we only paid the fees isf with got the PR visa. I wonder if any agents still offer this service? Even if you have to pay something, providing you can afford it, I think it's money well invested into your future. A few agents you could look at;
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Hi buttons....me and hubby from Dublin too and made the big move to Adelaide 4 mths ago,we came on a 176 visa which took us 6 mths to get,started last feb 2011 and got visa aug 5th 2011...sold our house and shipped all our stuff and arrived here on oct 15th,still early days and still settling in but loving de weather and out-door way of life and its great for the kids,its not home and some things are hard to get used too and its not been easy meeting ppl,not everyone is as friendly as de irish...lol...we have a group of irish here who all met thru different means and we meet at the weekends,or coffee during de week depending were ya live,ive also met some lovley aussies who hav made my settling in a lot easier!! my hubby was a fire-fighter wit DFB back home,but as u know public sector workers were gettin hammered and it got to a stage he was workin for nothing really,sure de ppxy goverment jus took it all in taxes,makes me so angry:-(...so we jus decided to give it a go,nothing to loose really,its not an easy move and i miss my family terrible,christmas was hard,but im gonna give it my best shot (4 yrs) is my deadline to settle and see wat life brings:-)...if i can help in anyway please jus ask or send me a private mess,good luck!!!

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Hi,

I came here on a permanent visa issued on my Metal Fabrication qualifications from DIT and City & Guilds, but I never worked at it when I got here, which is perfectly legal. I also had a diploma in Supply Chain management from APICS which DIAC weren't interested in, but which turned out gave me better salary and career opportunities.

There are pros and cons for short term and permanent visas

Short term visas are on average faster and easier to get but you need to find an employer to sponsor you. If you loose your job you may have to leave at very short notice. If you intend to go to Canberra or Sydney and you have children of primary or secondary age you have to pay as it's not free to 457 temporary visa holders as it is in the other states. So you'd be up for $5k to $10k per child per year. Your options if you can't pay is to go to Brisbane, Melbourne, Hobart, Adelaide, Perth or Darwin.

Permanent Visas are harder and take longer to get on average. However you don't need a job before you arrive, you can go where you want, are entitled to everything a citizen is entitled to except a passport, and after four years, it was two years till recently, you can become a citizen which not only means you can return to live in Australia anytime you want if you go back to Ireland, but so can your children when they become adults.

There is such a skills shortage that I doubt that your husband being out of his trade will really make much of a difference to employers.

The other major benefit from coming on a permanent visa is it will present opportunities for your husband to get into the police. In my experience being "johnny-on-the-spot" is what opportunity in Australia is all about, being in the right place at the right time will get you further here than any qualifications and contacts. Here in Melbourne VicPol have a recruiting targets of 340 new police officers a year and 940 Protective Service Officers by the end of this year, which they are struggling to meet because of pull factors on retention rates.

Politically recruiting offshore is not an option and unlike the federal police you don't have to be a citizen, just a permanent resident.

Opportunity is there for the taking, go for it, all best with decision to move to Oz

See links below for more info on VicPol;

http://www.news.com.au/national/cops...-1226263207719

http://www.policecareer.vic.gov.au/p...applicants-pso

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PS: forgot to mention Metal Fabricators are called "Boilermakers" in Australia, even if they have never worked on Boilers, it a generic term.

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PS: forgot to mention Metal Fabricators are called "Boilermakers" in Australia, even if they have never worked on Boilers, it a generic term.
Hi Jaycee.

Have been reading your posts and found them interesting re the boilermaker / welder info.

My husband and I have looked into the big move to Oz a few times over the years. Last year I applied for South Australia Police transfer and got as far as the psych tests but not the final interview. This year we are looking at getting in via my husband's employment. He is a welder with City and Guilds qualification and lots of experience in fab shops and on site on various power station shut downs and construction. He now has an interview next week in Kent with Industry Partners who are a recruitment company from WA looking to sponsor 457 visas for welders/boilermakers etc to work in Western Australia.

I cannot find any info on Industry Partners re feedback (apart from their website that is) and wondered if you knew of them or their reputation. He hasn't been offered any job yet but the fact that he has been shortlisted is a good sign. We don't want to get our hopes up too much for fear of the disappointment since this is what happened with my application last year.

Also, I cannot locate actual definitions of boiler maker/fabricator/first class welder and wondered if you can help with that one.

My husband is also anxious about the IELTS test. I've read he needs a 5 across each band. He is clearly British and English is his first language, but was never an academic at school. Would every native English speaker achieve that score easily ?

Sorry for all the questions, but any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

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Hi Jaycee.

Have been reading your posts and found them interesting re the boilermaker / welder info.

My husband and I have looked into the big move to Oz a few times over the years. Last year I applied for South Australia Police transfer and got as far as the psych tests but not the final interview. This year we are looking at getting in via my husband's employment. He is a welder with City and Guilds qualification and lots of experience in fab shops and on site on various power station shut downs and construction. He now has an interview next week in Kent with Industry Partners who are a recruitment company from WA looking to sponsor 457 visas for welders/boilermakers etc to work in Western Australia.

I cannot find any info on Industry Partners re feedback (apart from their website that is) and wondered if you knew of them or their reputation. He hasn't been offered any job yet but the fact that he has been shortlisted is a good sign. We don't want to get our hopes up too much for fear of the disappointment since this is what happened with my application last year.

Also, I cannot locate actual definitions of boiler maker/fabricator/first class welder and wondered if you can help with that one.

My husband is also anxious about the IELTS test. I've read he needs a 5 across each band. He is clearly British and English is his first language, but was never an academic at school. Would every native English speaker achieve that score easily ?

Sorry for all the questions, but any advice would be appreciated, thanks.
Industry Partners have been around for 10 years, they're a labour hire and a recruitment company so you need to clarify are they the employer or recruiting for another employer.

Boilermakers in Australia are in two groups, based on the market a particular business is in;

"Plate" which is fabricating and welding plate and "Structural", which is fabricating and welding RHS, Channel Angle etc. If you husband has experience across both these areas he's well placed. Welding in fabrication is generalised, mosty MIG but ARC is used on site work. Beyond that when you get into specialised welding you need to hold certs and you are then a "Welder" not a "Boilermaker" and you just weld.

Holders of British, Irish, Canadian, New Zealand and USA passports are exempt from IELTS testing

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Thanks Jaycee for your quick reply.
I think IP are recruiting on behalf of another employer for work both in the mines and in fab shops. I know IP appear to have a sister company which deals with immigration. I guess all will become clear next week.

I'm no welding expert but an extract from my husband's CV is

'I have welded the following metals and alloys - carbon steel, aluminium, stainless steel 304L, 316L, 347, 309, 321, chrome - moly 1 - 9%, monel, duplex, super duplex, inconnel 600/625, hastelloy, dissimilar metals, overlay samples and zeron.

I have welded a variety of pipes and plate ranging from inch - 72 inch diameter and 3mm - 240mm wall thickness.

I have previously been ASME9 6G coded in TIG and MMA welding processes. I also have experience in MIG/flux core and TIP TIG.

In my present employment the standards of integrity remain at very high levels although due to the nature of producing test samples, codings are currently unnecessary.'


His current job is manufacturing flaws into welds to produce training samples for non-destructive testing in light and heavy engineering industries, including oil, gas and nuclear.

On the whole is that kind of experience in demand ?

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