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Old 17th September 2013, 09:21 AM
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you may have 2 contracts 1 from the company and 1 for the ministry, the arabic one that goes to the ministry is always the one that is taken, so if they are different the ministry of labour will only go by the arabic one. nothing else.

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People talk about" it is business" but the ones quoting this I think have no idea. I would hazard a guess that it is their first job after leaving the military and they have no idea about what running a business entails. Am I right Mr I?
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Unfortunately, most of the people that were let go had significantly lower wages than those that are active in this thread. There were many of them that were living in apartments with 3 or 4 other people and were just getting by. Some of you say that everyone should prepare for something like this but when you are earning 1/4th of what the Americans and Euros are earning, it's kinda hard. I was in the meeting weeks ago with the Moroccans and the head of HR and it is true that they were promised higher pay and easier ways to pay back loans and to go ahead and bring family and enroll them in school. Now what? While it is much easier for us to roll on out with plan a/b/c/d, not so much for the less fortunate. Best of luck to those that have been impacted in such a negative way by this crappy company. I now know why all the heavies that work in HQ have left other countries for this one and are staying.......If they were in the US or Europe, they would have been fired long ago.
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All the Americans that are here. Something that I'm hearing through the grapevine. AMMROC is planning to open an office in the US. Now, if this happens, part of the agreement is to disclose what Americans are working for them and have taxes taken from their checks. Don't know if and when it will happen, but just a heads up.
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Let me explain something to those who think its business and it is easy for them to say: just be prepared for Plans B/C/D/E

First …Wages
People from States and Europe are making double to triple the wage that (Jordanians, Pakistanis & Filipinos) are making, besides it is Tax free .Providing that, what westerns make in 1 year it will take 3 years for other nationalities to make.

Second …Opportunity back home
Finding a job in AMMROC might be a life time shot for them People who came from JOR, PAK PI, etc... Finding a job back home is very difficult as I mentioned before , and if ever they get lucky to find one job then the pay won’t be that much, am talking about less than 500$ a month may be way way less. So they don’t have plan B/C/D, they only plan they have is G/Go home and suffer. Not to mention, their chance to work in other countries worldwide is less than westerns have due to nationality favoritism.

Third…Culture
Most of them people who got laid off they have responsibilities not only towards their kids and wife, not only toward bills (home, car may be loans and debts from here and there) but also towards their parents or may be brothers/sisters (some of you may say this is ridiculous) I say just ask each one of them, I bet that they have commitments towards their extended families due to social strings and cultural life norm. They came to UAE to pay off their debts and live a good life along with their families and siblings.

Fourth…vision
Again, AMMROC broke their promises by laying off majority of unfortunate nationalities, also some unfortunate Americans were there too as collateral damage. Some Jordanians proposed to work other platforms (C130's, CN's, Helicopters)even with less pay, but their proposal was not welcomed by AMMROC (PM me for details), despite the fact that they have experience and training on such platforms. Why the hick they weren't given this chance? At the same time AMMROC is hiring from Morocco and other countries to cover open vacancies left behind after laying off people, I just hope and pray they don’t do the same for the new comers!!!

All in all, There is no way to compare these people from unfortunate background(JOR,PAK,PI,etc..) with fortunate westerns, please guys don’t blame them for getting upset and losing it. They didn't leave their homeland looking for trouble but for a better quality of life.
I wish whoever stays in AMMROC all the best no matter if he/she was from States, Europe, Middle East or Far East. Everybody deserves a good life and should be treated fair by their employer with full respect.

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Let me explain something to those who think its business and it is easy for them to say: just be prepared for Plans B/C/D/E

First …Wages
People from States and Europe are making double to triple the wage that (Jordanians, Pakistanis & Filipinos) are making, besides it is Tax free .Providing that, what westerns make in 1 year it will take 3 years for other nationalities to make.

Second …Opportunity back home
Finding a job in AMMROC might be a life time shot for them People who came from JOR, PAK PI, etc... Finding a job back home is very difficult as I mentioned before , and if ever they get lucky to find one job then the pay won’t be that much, am talking about less than 500$ a month may be way way less. So they don’t have plan B/C/D, they only plan they have is G/Go home and suffer. Not to mention, their chance to work in other countries worldwide is less than westerns have due to nationality favoritism.

Third…Culture
Most of them people who got laid off they have responsibilities not only towards their kids and wife, not only toward bills (home, car may be loans and debts from here and there) but also towards their parents or may be brothers/sisters (some of you may say this is ridiculous) I say just ask each one of them, I bet that they have commitments towards their extended families due to social strings and cultural life norm. They came to UAE to pay off their debts and live a good life along with their families and siblings.

Fourth…vision
Again, AMMROC broke their promises by laying off majority of unfortunate nationalities, also some unfortunate Americans were there too as collateral damage. Some Jordanians proposed to work other platforms (C130's, CN's, Helicopters)even with less pay, but their proposal was not welcomed by AMMROC (PM me for details), despite the fact that they have experience and training on such platforms. Why the hick they weren't given this chance? At the same time AMMROC is hiring from Morocco and other countries to cover open vacancies left behind after laying off people, I just hope and pray they don’t do the same for the new comers!!!

All in all, There is no way to compare these people from unfortunate background(JOR,PAK,PI,etc..) with fortunate westerns, please guys don’t blame them for getting upset and losing it. They didn't leave their homeland looking for trouble but for a better quality of life.
I wish whoever stays in AMMROC all the best no matter if he/she was from States, Europe, Middle East or Far East. Everybody deserves a good life and should be treated fair by their employer with full respect.
Well said brother.

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Well said brother.
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ESPN Layoffs: Sports Network Reportedly Letting Go Of Hundreds [UPDATED]
Valeant completes acquisition of Bausch and Lomb; Hundreds being let go | News | City Living News
Armstrong Confirms “Hundreds” Of Layoffs At Patch, 400 Sites Shuttered Or Partnered Off, And A New CEO | TechCrunch
For those not willing to read, here are the cliff notes: hundreds laid off, end. Business is business and in every job you venture to take there is the possibilty of being let go at any time. If you aren't willing to accept that then I believe YOU are the one that spent to much time in the military. Money is the name of the game, not people. As far as ANY company is concerned everyone they hire is merely a number as in the number of dollars or pesos or dirham they pay them a month. If you don't like it then I here that unemployment pay pretty damn good in the states now a days. Second, nobody told these people to take the offers they were given. In fact on every forum I have the privilege of being a part of it was suggest to negotiate. If you have the time to actually read all the pages of these one, as I did before I even applied for the job it was suggested. Try it in every job, there is a reason you are selected over others. Thirdly, if you don't have the peace of mind to take steps in ensure that you are prepared for an eventually that happens in every country to every company then why should you blame the company? I knew a large percentage of the people let go from Al Dhafra and I am sad to see them go but I also know several who were prepared and are happier then me right now. I'm sorry for those that didn't but such is life in the working world. Mistakes and bad decisions were made on both sides. Learn from it move on and grow up.
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ESPN Layoffs: Sports Network Reportedly Letting Go Of Hundreds [UPDATED]
Valeant completes acquisition of Bausch and Lomb; Hundreds being let go | News | City Living News
Armstrong Confirms “Hundreds” Of Layoffs At Patch, 400 Sites Shuttered Or Partnered Off, And A New CEO | TechCrunch
For those not willing to read, here are the cliff notes: hundreds laid off, end. Business is business and in every job you venture to take there is the possibilty of being let go at any time. If you aren't willing to accept that then I believe YOU are the one that spent to much time in the military. Money is the name of the game, not people. As far as ANY company is concerned everyone they hire is merely a number as in the number of dollars or pesos or dirham they pay them a month. If you don't like it then I here that unemployment pay pretty damn good in the states now a days. Second, nobody told these people to take the offers they were given. In fact on every forum I have the privilege of being a part of it was suggest to negotiate. If you have the time to actually read all the pages of these one, as I did before I even applied for the job it was suggested. Try it in every job, there is a reason you are selected over others. Thirdly, if you don't have the peace of mind to take steps in ensure that you are prepared for an eventually that happens in every country to every company then why should you blame the company? I knew a large percentage of the people let go from Al Dhafra and I am sad to see them go but I also know several who were prepared and are happier then me right now. I'm sorry for those that didn't but such is life in the working world. Mistakes and bad decisions were made on both sides. Learn from it move on and grow up.
Then I'll ask you one question. Was there 1 local let go? I know the answer.
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Then I'll ask you one question. Was there 1 local let go? I know the answer.
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