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Old 2nd September 2013, 04:02 PM
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Entire company, however, mostly from one base.

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[Here are some things to look out for with AMMROC. First of all, if you are an expat, it doesn't matter how senior you are, if a local goes after you, you will not last. I can give more than 50 cases of this. The HR manual that is new, is ver vague. It was purposely written this way and if there is a spot in it that is not vague, it will be changed. For instance. This year, there were more than 100 that completed their 90 day probationary period. The new HR manual that was re-written had now made this process automatic and therefor no 90 day confirmation letters were written. Once AMMROC figured out that they over budget, they re-wrote that process and asked the senior leaders to rethink the low performers and redo their 90 day evaluations. The list was to include every nationality except locals, no matter how bad they were performing. I have a buddy that is HR at a base and he tells a story of an HR local that it took 3 months to get rid of because he never came to work, or was always late. Even when he did come to work, he did nothing. The things you have to be careful of with AMMROC is your money. They will expect you to use your money to pay for travel, tuition, and many other things but it takes months to be reimbursed. I for instance was at one period owed more than 120,000 AED. That's $30,000 roughly. There was another period were I was owed 110,000 AED. I have aircrew buddies that have not been reimbursed for months on their flight pay, overtime, lodging, and many other expenses. I have hundreds of stories. How do I get them all? I'm one of a few expats working in a place that has access. If you want, I'll give info that you might need. I will never mention a name though. ][

IS this an all over thing or varies with platform. What platform are you on?
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This was the entire company but mainly from one base. Keep in mind, this is a company that was supposed to be hiring to support multiple bases and got out of control and now have really messed of the lives of more than 200 people and their families. Not very good.

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Something to be careful of if/when you do get hired. I have several friends that were just hired recently. When they were at the hotel, a rep from 2 different banks showed up at their door (how did they know they were there) and said they were representing AMMROC. They then told each of my friends how much they were making and what their grades were. That's scary. How/where did they get that information from? Be very careful people. If this should happen to you, take them down to the front desk and have them banned from the hotel.

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No F-16 support equipment
F-16 Support equipment is an area that they are lacking tremendously in. They never hired for that and are using people with little to no experience in. In this area, you could be very lucky and advance quickly. Keep in mind, if you are hired and you are put into a grade of F or G but they have you working as as a J or H, you are entitled to more. The HR manual is very specific in that if you are working as a supervisor, you should be paid as such (temporarily) until someone comes in or you are given that position formally. Good luck.

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The company does deal with certain banks here. I believe they get a kick back for every person that signs with those particular banks. Don't be surprised by this tactic as the guy from the bank gets a kick back for everyone they sign and every loan that those people get. It's common and they have been doing it since before I got here. If you are still worried, I have no problem giving anyone the name and number of the person who helped me with my loan.

FYI the hotel is also in on this so they know about these people coming to the hotel, I'm sure they hotel is getting some funds handed to them for this as well

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We are uh-60? Do you know if they have stopped hiring for those jobs?

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some employers here have clauses in their contracts that say you either can not discuss them or say bad things about them, the silence sometimes speaks for its self.
What they are afraid of is being made to look bad. However, they do a great job of doing that to themselves. Here is a story. At one of the bases, there was an employee that after his induction didn't come to work for 3 months. He was located by one of the EXPATs in HR and brought to the base. Funny thing is that the ones that had been there for months had no way of tracking anyone that was new to come in and that guy did. If anyone knows him, let me know, I'd like to shake his hand. He was brought in and when given to the Senior Supervisor, was told just to go to work. Not fired, not fined, not suspended, nothing. The company is very non-confrontational and does not like to be embarrassed.

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Something to be careful of if/when you do get hired. I have several friends that were just hired recently. When they were at the hotel, a rep from 2 different banks showed up at their door (how did they know they were there) and said they were representing AMMROC. They then told each of my friends how much they were making and what their grades were. That's scary. How/where did they get that information from? Be very careful people. If this should happen to you, take them down to the front desk and have them banned from the hotel.
It seems to be the norm for bank guys to make personal visits, when you want to open an account your employer provides a letter to the bank which does give salary details. This guides the bank on what level account you get. When my wife's HR contact found that there were several people putting down the same bank as their choice she phoned them up and they imediately sent someone over to open the accounts for everybody.

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The company does deal with certain banks here. I believe they get a kick back for every person that signs with those particular banks. Don't be surprised by this tactic as the guy from the bank gets a kick back for everyone they sign and every loan that those people get. It's common and they have been doing it since before I got here. If you are still worried, I have no problem giving anyone the name and number of the person who helped me with my loan.

FYI the hotel is also in on this so they know about these people coming to the hotel, I'm sure they hotel is getting some funds handed to them for this as well
Sorry sir, you are incorrect. AMMROC deals with one bank only (ADCB) and the policy when it comes to people and their personal data is the strictest of confidence. There is no doubt that someone in HR is doing this, that I do believe but the company which has major share holders, 2 of which are American companies would never stand for this. If this was reported to hotel management, it would stop. It certainly did at the Crowne where I was staying.

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