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I have lived here for almost 5 years, after spending a long vacation about 6 years ago. Love the climate, inexpensive living, food and their ubiquitous smile. (They are not smiling they are laughing their asses off.)

Did my “visa runs” and to overcome the 3 now “months” rule, (Only Thais could **** up a system using apples and oranges) travelled to Malaysia for another 60 day permit, extendable to yet another 30 days.
This grumpy immigration agent at the Andaman club let me leave, but when I returned, advised me that I had used up all my permits, counting back God knows how many months.
“I give you 3 day stay, come back tomorrow.”

I live about 350 km (8 hour round trip) from Ranong and since someone had stolen my car, it took a 3800 baht on a minibus journey to go back the next day.

Then he advised me that this was it and gave me 1 (ONE) day visa.

It was 4 PM and by the time I returned home it was almost 8PM.
What could I accomplish in one day?

So now I am “overstay”.

After thinking it over, I have decided to take a chance and become illegal. I added up the airline, car and taxi trips in Malaysia to Ranong and Phang Nga; In just the last 3 months they amount to more than 18,500 Baht. Just for the privilege to live here another 90 days? I am not a back-packer, but also not rich.

I had them build me a one bedroom bungalow, paid the guy 200,000 Baht in advance, in lieu of the no bedroom bungalow I was occupying at the time for the same price 7000 Baht a month.

Well, he died in the tsunami. His wife took over and approached me one day. “I have to raise your rent to 10,000 Baht a month”, because is bigger. Lady, I paid you husband 100,000 Baht for the addition. When I die, or move away you may charge as much as you wish. Well it was settled anyway.


I would have to be stupid, to put up with this horse ****. I know people who have done it for years and gotten away with it.

I am almost 74 years old, don’t go anywhere; I am just as happy sitting up here at the edge of the jungle, marveling at the fauna out there. I can send one of the neighborhood kids to the ATM, and do my shopping.

Now I just want to milk “their” system for all I can get out of it; pay them the 20,000 baht maximum afterwards and laugh all the way to the bank.

I don’t like to do that, I am too honest, basically, but they leave me no choice. Thais are the most mischievous devious, sneaky, unfeeling, heartless, lying (they call it saving face) bunch of human beings I have ever encountered and as a retired Pilot I have been all over the world.

It started wit the tsunami, when I could not get out of town and was forced to overstay for 8 or 10 days. I tried to explain to the ***** in Ranong, due to the tsunami all the roads were closed, I lost my car and most of my possessions and had no other choice but to wait. She nodded in agreement, handed me the form and said, “Pay over there”. Wow, real kindness and empathy.

If it weren’t for the climate, cheap living and all the things I have invested here, house, inventory etc.

I want to spend my retirement money in Thailand, not in Malaysia or some other country. If it weren’t for that I would tell them to stick it all up their respective asses; I would be out of here in a heartbeat.
Their smile is known as "the killing smile." When it comes t the Thais, a smile is not always what it seems. They could be laughing at you, laughing all the way to the bank, or because they're embarrassed and don't know what else to do. Or it might just be a genuine smile.

The Thais have been lenient towards foreigners staying in the country - over the years they've allowed people to live and work simply by doing monthly visa runs. People have stayed for years on end...but when it comes to those legally living here, those who are married to a Thai (like me), the system is not quite as user friendly. I've been married for 6 years to an educated Thai (as opposed to a bar girl), with the same woman for 10, we have two children together and yet I need to go out of the country every year? Doesn't quite seem right to me.

As far as some of the character traits of Thais - you are right IMO.

Thais will flat out lie to avoid confrontation.

Thais can seem unfeeling - in truth, the culture is not a "feeling" culture as many are in the west. You don't hear alot of Thais speaking of their feelings do you?

While I appreciate the culture, I do think at times the whole "saving face" concept is used to their benefit.

Also, I've been here for 14 years and have alot of time invested here, not to mention material goods. If I do move somewhere, it's going to be to work or because I feel the place is a better place. So far, I've yet to find a place that was so much better that I feel it appropriate to make a move.

Every place has it's frustrations - there is no Utopia, period. It's all in the way you look at it. If you feel that overstaying is your way of getting back at the Thai system, more power to you - but be prepared to pay the consequences.


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It was not a rash decision to retire to Thailand.

After spending a supposed 2 week vacation more than 5 years ago, which turned into an almost 2 month’s holiday, I decided this is where I want to spend the rest of my days. It was also the first (and last) trip on a long-tail boat to Khawtoung in Myanmar.

I sold my home in the US, since my wife had left me after a 30 year marriage, my children were emancipated and burned my bridges behind me.

I aimed for the no O retirement visa which required 800,000 baht or equivalent monthly income adding to this amount.

I arrived deposited 5 million Baht, into an account at a local Thai bank. I also met a nice young man who owned a transportation company here in town running 8 minibuses. Wife, new baby, spoke reasonably understandable English, owned property etc. He needed another minibus so I gave him as an investment 1, 2 million to buy a new Toyota vehicle of that sort.

Well, then along came the tsunami. It wiped him out. 7 out of 8 buses, plus his personal car (I never even got to see my new mini-bus :>)

I told him this is not of your doing,we survived it, living only 1,5 km where 2,300 tourists lost their lifes. Don’t worry about the money. I now was the best thing to sliced bread.” You are such a kind-hearted person” bla bla bla.

I did have an accident in Phuket when I first arrived, (would up on the wrong side of the road, after driving on the right side for neigh 50 years) he was invaluable to get me through the trauma of dealing with the police.

The insurance company sent me a 1,800 Baht refund check for incorrect charges, but only to be cashed in Phuket. Since he was in Phuket at the time, he sent his mother to my home with a form (in Thai) supposedly authorizing to act on my behalf. She also took my ATM card, since he needed to pay the lawyer in cash, so he said.

He was supposed to return that evening, sent me an SMS, I will see you around 8 PM, but disappeared for 6 months. Contacting the family just resulted in that phony SMILE. May rue? (or loo pronounced here in the south.

After a week, I had this feeling, a foreboding which did not go away. I visited my bank to get a balance. Low and behold:
Previous balance 3,600,000 Baht, current balance 1,250 Baht. Not even enough for a bottle of cheap Mekong.

My New Mitsubishi Strada truck was hit from behind while stopped, but with the usual Thai attitude, the perpetrator made a U-turn and disappeared. I did have insurance and my new Thai friend offered to have it repaired. Again, I signed some papers in Thai, not knowing what I signed. He drove it away, never to be seen again. He registered it in his name and sold it.

When I threatened him with the police, he SMS’d me. “I no scare of police, I know them all”. It is true. I could file charges for theft; he would be arrested but bailed out within minutes by his family. They will schedule a trial 4 of 5 years from now. By that time I will probably be dead.

So you tell me, I should not be pissed???

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- over the years they've allowed people to live and work simply by doing monthly visa runs. People have stayed for years on end...but when it comes to those legally living here, those who are married to a Thai (like me), the system is not quite as user friendly

The Thais have been lenient
towards foreigners staying in the country.


Look at the articles in the Newspaper.
I buy the Bangkok Post ever day. Most of the articles written by Thais are the one’s who studied abroad. College education in Thailand, a cruel joke.

Lenient?
Mow they have learned since that it takes more than a nice resort to deal with falang. They developed an industry; manufacturing et al and now needed to deal with international commerce.
Everybody was elated. Wow, the baht is up and the Dollar is down, until they priced themselves out of competition with Cambodia Laos and Vietnam.

The educational system is still a shambles.
I have 2 15 year old neighborhood boys who can not even tell me what 6x6 amounts to, without using a calculator. Only one of the others has learned enough English from me to have a lucent conversation with. The others speak NOTHING.

No, I don’t tout it to be in English.
I am also fluent in German, Spanish as well as getting by in Japanese.

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It was not a rash decision to retire to Thailand.

After spending a supposed 2 week vacation more than 5 years ago, which turned into an almost 2 month’s holiday, I decided this is where I want to spend the rest of my days. It was also the first (and last) trip on a long-tail boat to Khawtoung in Myanmar.

I sold my home in the US, since my wife had left me after a 30 year marriage, my children were emancipated and burned my bridges behind me.

I aimed for the no O retirement visa which required 800,000 baht or equivalent monthly income adding to this amount.

I arrived deposited 5 million Baht, into an account at a local Thai bank. I also met a nice young man who owned a transportation company here in town running 8 minibuses. Wife, new baby, spoke reasonably understandable English, owned property etc. He needed another minibus so I gave him as an investment 1, 2 million to buy a new Toyota vehicle of that sort.

Well, then along came the tsunami. It wiped him out. 7 out of 8 buses, plus his personal car (I never even got to see my new mini-bus :>)

I told him this is not of your doing,we survived it, living only 1,5 km where 2,300 tourists lost their lifes. Don’t worry about the money. I now was the best thing to sliced bread.” You are such a kind-hearted person” bla bla bla.

I did have an accident in Phuket when I first arrived, (would up on the wrong side of the road, after driving on the right side for neigh 50 years) he was invaluable to get me through the trauma of dealing with the police.

The insurance company sent me a 1,800 Baht refund check for incorrect charges, but only to be cashed in Phuket. Since he was in Phuket at the time, he sent his mother to my home with a form (in Thai) supposedly authorizing to act on my behalf. She also took my ATM card, since he needed to pay the lawyer in cash, so he said.

He was supposed to return that evening, sent me an SMS, I will see you around 8 PM, but disappeared for 6 months. Contacting the family just resulted in that phony SMILE. May rue? (or loo pronounced here in the south.

After a week, I had this feeling, a foreboding which did not go away. I visited my bank to get a balance. Low and behold:
Previous balance 3,600,000 Baht, current balance 1,250 Baht. Not even enough for a bottle of cheap Mekong.

My New Mitsubishi Strada truck was hit from behind while stopped, but with the usual Thai attitude, the perpetrator made a U-turn and disappeared. I did have insurance and my new Thai friend offered to have it repaired. Again, I signed some papers in Thai, not knowing what I signed. He drove it away, never to be seen again. He registered it in his name and sold it.

When I threatened him with the police, he SMS’d me. “I no scare of police, I know them all”. It is true. I could file charges for theft; he would be arrested but bailed out within minutes by his family. They will schedule a trial 4 of 5 years from now. By that time I will probably be dead.

So you tell me, I should not be pissed???
So you made an investment in a person you barely know. You also handed over your ATM card to someone you barely know? Sure, you have every right to be pissed.

You know, I'm no "expert" but one would be ill advised to do those types of things in ANY country.

Yes, I'm not living in Thailand, but I am married to a Thai. Your constant attack on Thai people in general is not welcomed.

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So you made an investment in a person you barely know. You also handed over your ATM card to someone you barely know? Sure, you have every right to be pissed.

You know, I'm no "expert" but one would be ill advised to do those types of things in ANY country.

Yes, I'm not living in Thailand, but I am married to a Thai. Your constant attack on Thai people in general is not welcomed.
Aviador, he's right about that, certainly. Sometimes though, people are too nice (or gullible) for their own good. I also wouldn't do that in ANY country.

As far as the "attacks," he's entitled to his opinion, and frankly some of his feelings may be justified. The thing is though - there are people like this EVERYWHERE. There are good Thai people and bad Thai people...

I'm also married to a Thai - probably been in Thailand longer than most on this board, sowed my oats thousands of times over, and have been with the same woman for 10 years now.

But I'm not offended in the least...don't take it so personal Jamie...There is a reason why Thailand is viewed the way it is, and also a reason why it's still viewed as a third world country. People need money and if the result of them cheating someone is obtaining that goal, then some people, Thai or otherwise, have no problem in doing so.

Most Thais who speak English speak it poorly and the schools need to address this. But if you're going to live here and expect your kids to get a decent education and to speak English properly, then you'll need to put them in a private school, simple as that.

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Most Thais who speak English speak it poorly and the schools need to address this. But if you're going to live here and expect your kids to get a decent education and to speak English properly, then you'll need to put them in a private school, simple as that.[/QUOTE]



Steve is an English language teacher from G.B. at the Language Center, Udon Thani Rajabhat University.
This university is in the north-east of Thailand; an area which is predominantly agricultural, where English language education is not in the forefront of people’s minds. He doesn’t speak a word of Thai, is married to a Thai lady, and has two children.
As well as teaching English, Steve has been writing a regular weekly column in the Education Section of the Bangkok Post for over a year.

My firsts e-mail to him.
Dear Mr. Graham.
I found your article; "WHY THAI STUDENDS DO NOT LIKE LEARNING ENGLISH" completely biased, intolerant, small minded and utterly contemptuous. How dare you criticize the time-honored methods the way languages are practiced all over the globe?

No, don't worry :>) I am a jokester and agree with you 1000%.

May I call you Steve now?

I finally found a “think alike” person.

I grew up during and in post-war Germany, attended "Gymnasium", where Latin was a compulsory subject, which I hated with a passion. Why learn a dead language no one speaks today? Of course I failed it miserably. I can still see that bald-headed assh..ole rector, attending a conference with my mother and myself present.
"Your son has absolutely no talent for languages; we are therefore forced to remove him from the program." I other words, I was kicked out and put back with the dummies in primary school.

Bad karma for the entire family.

I was about 13 or 14, while hanging out at a former German military base, which by now was a US military installation, black marketing American cigarettes when I made friends with a nice GI, who managed to get me a pass to come and go as I pleased, and where I acquired my first rudimentary English. I fell in love with everything American, immigrated to the US at the age of 19 and was probably fluent in the English language within 2 years. Grammar, one learns as one goes along I found out. (I am a better speller than my 2 college educated sons :>)
My oldest son has 3 years of high school German and 4 years in college, but speaks NOTHING !!!!!!!!!

As a pilot, I did a great deal of traveling throughout Latin and South America and learned Spanish along the way as well.

During a well deserved vacation in 2000 I spent 2 weeks, which stretched out to almost 8 in southern Thailand and decided this is where I want to spend the rest of my days.

Since I did not care for the noise of drunken tourists and boisterous nightlife in this resort town, I had them build me small one bedroom bungalow at the edge of the jungle.

8 years ago, there were few, it no internet cafés in town.
Spying the satellite dish and a telephone line some neighborhood kids came to watch cartoons and try their hand at my 3 computers.
I made it a point, not to learn too much Thai, mainly because of the writing. Nothing could be looked up, also for the reason that I was approaching 70.
Learning Thai should be easy, because there are no plurals, no past tenses, no conjugation. A very simple language indeed if it weren't for the "tonals'.

I decided to converse with the boys strictly in English. My reasoning, they would need to be proficient in English in order to get a decent job some day. There was very little interaction with the locals anyway. At the time, Gieht 10, Eg and Muhdeng 11, Bigun 12.
All attended the primary school in Bangniang where they were supposedly taught English. Sure they could, like you stated sing songs around Christmas, I even met a young man who could read English flawlessly. One problem though, he had no idea what he was reading.
One day, I decided to meet their teacher, a nice middle-aged Thai lady. I could not carry on a coherent conversation with this woman, her English was so bad. The blind leading the blind?
Well, all are now in middle-school. No difference, except Eg who is now 15 ½. I "inherited" him when his mother left with her latest boyfriend and lives here with me. He just has the “gift”. First it was ‘Eg want Coke’, graduated to now, ‘Papa, when you go in the kitchen, may I have another Coke please’.!!!!!!!! (I swell with pride)

Egg’s friends mouths agape are in awe, as we converse in practically perfect English.
He did have problems with irregular verbs though.
"Very simple" I said. "Just put "DID" in front of it. Instead of "saw" say "did see", or went, say "did go" etc. Works like a charm.

I raised 2 sons of my own and thought I could cope with a teenager in puberty, but it isn’t easy. Like a woman with PMS, sometimes nice sometimes nasty.

Steve answered:

In a nutshell, Thais are only going through the motions. They don't actually do anything. Everything is a cover and a front to hide their lives which are a lie.

Take a school teacher for instance. You would think that being a teacher; the first priority would be the students. No, of course not. The first priority is themselves. The children are just pawns in the game they play. The game is career advancement.

I have a career, I am a teacher and I am respected. If everyone passes their multiple choice examinations, I get a good report, more money, and promotion; and every day that passes I am one day nearer to the government pension. The pension paid by the government for teaching children using the government guidelines, that everyone ignores, because student centered communicative language teaching does not enhance the O-Net scores of the students which does not increase my numbers, so does not reflect in promotion and more money for me.

If I drive my car, I will ignore you. If I am turning left into a busy road, I will look the other way as Buddha will take care of me (unless I am in his truck and I am not a Buddhist). If you want to come into the line of traffic, I will not let you in and if I hit you with my car, I will run away, such is the coward that I am.

The reason why there are so many stories about monsters in Isaan is because when something bad happens, nobody will admit to it. If nobody did it, then it must have been the Isaan monster. Who broke the fridge? The Isaan monster. Who ate the last slice of pizza? The Isaan monster. Who borrowed money on my Samlaw? My brother in law but don't make a fuss about it, he needed the money, don't talk about it and certainly don't ask him to repay the money.

Just a few thoughts which took me less than three minutes to type. Shows what you can do when you are motivated. Why do I teach English in Thailand? Because of the students. You will notice in the years to come, how people will change and I am hopeful that when I put down my last whiteboard marker and retire to the bar, I will be happy because I would have won the war.

Regards Steve.

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God forbid, criticizing anything in Thailand.

The hawks will swarm about you. The middle aged, bald, beer belly types who spend a few months here in their swank multimillion baht air conditioned penthouse in Bangkok, return with their “trophy” Thai wife back to the USA

So you made an investment in a person you barely know. You also handed over your ATM card to someone you barely know? Sure, you have every right to be pissed.

You know, I'm no "expert" but one would be ill advised to do those types of things in ANY country.


Yes, I'm not living in Thailand, but I am married to a Thai. Your constant attack on Thai people in general is not welcomed.

I owned 2 cars, when I sold my home in the US. A Mercedes which was sold quickly and a classic BMW 524td in mint condition, one of only 5000 sold in the US between 1965 and 1966. I drove the car to Florida with the belongings of my lady friend, who lived with me or the last 10 years. Her son, whom I had known since he was a teenager offered to sell the car for me. He was now 50 some years old.

The car at the time was appraised to be worth about $7000.00. I told him to get me $5000.00 and keep the difference.

I received $1000.00.That was it.

Barely knew???

I don’t want to be lectured.

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God forbid, criticizing anything in Thailand.

The hawks will swarm about you. The middle aged, bald, beer belly types who spend a few months here in their swank multimillion baht air conditioned penthouse in Bangkok, return with their “trophy” Thai wife back to the USA

So you made an investment in a person you barely know. You also handed over your ATM card to someone you barely know? Sure, you have every right to be pissed.

You know, I'm no "expert" but one would be ill advised to do those types of things in ANY country.


Yes, I'm not living in Thailand, but I am married to a Thai. Your constant attack on Thai people in general is not welcomed.

I owned 2 cars, when I sold my home in the US. A Mercedes which was sold quickly and a classic BMW 524td in mint condition, one of only 5000 sold in the US between 1965 and 1966. I drove the car to Florida with the belongings of my lady friend, who lived with me or the last 10 years. Her son, whom I had known since he was a teenager offered to sell the car for me. He was now 50 some years old.

The car at the time was appraised to be worth about $7000.00. I told him to get me $5000.00 and keep the difference.

I received $1000.00.That was it.

Barely knew???

I don’t want to be lectured.
Those who live here or who have lived here know the truth - those that haven't DON'T.

Jamie and Owen have their opinions and they're entitled to them, but we're going to have to agree to disagree. I can assure most people on this board that over the years I've done just about everything here in Thailand...and been in every situation. I don't speak out of knowing something for a month or two - I speak out of living here day in and day out for years.

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Singto, you really do have a problem with time.
What is this 'month or two' nonsense?
I said I'd been here for four years 'day in and day out', living the life, blah, blah, blah.
I'm not the 'old timer farang in Thailand', only four years, not 14 or whatever you said.
Sheesh, what are you saying?
Dismiss my experience because you've been here longer?
That is a lousy point of view.

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Singto, you really do have a problem with time.
What is this 'month or two' nonsense?
I said I'd been here for four years 'day in and day out', living the life, blah, blah, blah.
I'm not the 'old timer farang in Thailand', only four years, not 14 or whatever you said.
Sheesh, what are you saying?
Dismiss my experience because you've been here longer?
That is a lousy point of view.
Once again you're assuming I'm speaking specifically about you when I said one or two months. Once again, I wasn't.

What I'm saying Owen is that alot of what you have said is rubbish, including "most guys here are old enough to have granddaughters," or to paraphrase, "I think this means: don't bother trying to move your business to Thailand" or "I'm cynical because I don't trust bar girls."

Most male tourists aren't old enough to be grandfathers and it's relatively easy to wade through the red tape of opening a business if you have the patience.

As far as the bar girls - go ahead Owen, believe them all you want. Men pay them to go away when they're done - not to marry them. Those that start believing their girl is different, ALA Julia Roberts, are asking for trouble.

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