Salary-wages information - and minimum rates

[Song_Si]

Salary lift to begin with civil servants
2 Sept 2011

Low-ranking civil servants holding university degrees will enjoy monthly incomes of 15,000 baht from Jan 1, which is expected to cost the government an additional 24.5 billion baht annually, says Deputy Finance Minister Wirun Techapaiboon.

He said 649,323 public servants now earned less than 15,000 baht a month, with 346,365 of them holding at least a bachelor's degree.

University graduates will receive extra cost-of-living allowances to bring their monthly income to 15,000 baht. Those without degrees will receive new allowances to bring their incomes to between 9,000 and 12,285 baht.

"The issue is expected to be up for cabinet consideration within two weeks. The Office of the Civil Service Commission is structuring the new salary scale and will complete it within six months," said Mr Wirun.

"Hopefully, the measure will help to encourage the private sector to raise their workers' pay in order to stimulate people's purchasing power, domestic consumption and the economy overall."

He expects the higher salaries will attract more skilled people to the government as well as encourage skill development among the private sector.

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[duncbUK]

I am a firm believer that market forces should rule. That said it is sickening how little some people seem to earn, and if the Thai government increases the pay of civil servants then that should put pressure on the market to pay more to get better staff in the private sector. In reality they are just creating inflation.

My only question is, will more money mean better productivity? I have recently bought a condo, and used painters, furniture fitters (national brand), bathroom fitters, decorators. I used these people because (as a very basic handyman myself) I wanted the place to look nice and have a professional job done. Boy was I wrong. On each and every occasion (sorry, Powerbuy did a good job of fixing the tv to the wall)I had to call them to come back and fix the job. If I had my time again I would have done it myself!
I paid good money for the work, and treated the workers well and expected a good job. I am begining to believe if you treat people well and with respect they think you are a fool. I wonder if the same applies with paying salaries- pay more to get less out of your staff???

[Song_Si]

Following excerpts from an article in today's news, full story at link.

Wage hike plan gains traction

The Cabinet approved in principle yesterday a plan to raise the monthly income of civil servants with bachelor's degrees to 15,000 baht, while leaving open the possibility that the benefit may be extended to personnel with lower levels of education.

Under the proposal approved by the Cabinet yesterday, civil servants whose salaries are less than 15,000 baht a month would be given a cost of living allowance to bring their monthly income to 15,000 baht.

A total of 649,000 state officials in five categories are eligible for the cost of living increase. They are civil servants, permanent employees, temporary employees, contracted employees, and military personnel.

Of those, about 346,000 have a bachelor's or higher degree.

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Soldiers whose salary now stands at 8,610 baht a month will enjoy the hike which will see their monthly income increase to 9,000 baht as well.

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[somchit-srimoon]

Originally Posted by Song_Si

Following excerpts from an article in today's news, full story at link.

It seems the government has lots of plans which are not going to achieve anything promised, but are designed to look like they are trying to help the Thai people.


My thinking this program too will cause inflation. What is a Degree in Thailand worth? Well, now the cost for government officials to purchase their degrees will surely go up as well.

Thailand is famous for its government officials to just buying a degree, or swamping them for "favors".

[Song_Si]

New civil servant pay starts on Jan 1
December 29, 2011 6:13 pm

The Comptroller General's Department insisted that the new pay for all civil servants would be raised to Bt15,000 a month on Jan 1.

Rangsan Srivorasat, director-general of the department, said that the regulations to enforce this pay hike were submitted to the Council of State for screening on Dec 23. This should pave way for implementation on Jan 1, he said.

In line with the government’s policy to raise wages, those who hold a bachelor’s degree will be paid at least Bt15,000 a month, including allowances. The minimum wage of Bt300 per day will be implemented in April.

According to Rangsan, a number of 649,323 civil servants will enjoy a higher pay. They include military servants, police officers, teachers, government employees and temporary employees.

The pay of those holding no bachelor degree would be raised to at least Bt9,000.

[Chiang Mai]

i know 'productivity' and Thais are not exactly good bedfellows but it's such a very small amount I do believe they should get a livable wage and that has to be 9,000 minimum (dependent on location - probably 25% higher in BKK)

[Song_Si]

Govt officials’ salary hike approved
31/01/2012

The cabinet on Tuesday approved an increase in state officials' minimum base salaries at an estimated budget cost of 5.6 billion baht.

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In the first year, 2012, the new salary structure will provide a minimum monthly income of 7,620 baht per month for government officials with a lower vocational certificate, known as Por Wor Chor in Thai, and a 9,300-baht minimum monthly income for those acquiring an upper vocational certificate, or Por Wor Sor.

Those holding a bachelor's degree will get a minimum 11,680 baht a month, a master's 15,300 baht and a doctoral degree 19,000 baht.

full news article here

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Civil service pay rises get nod

[Song_Si]

Firms ignore new graduates to save money
B15,000 starting salary blamed for joblessness

30/03/2012

Many entrepreneurs have refused to employ bachelor's degree graduates to avoid paying a starting salary of 15,000 baht, a seminar on youth employment was told yesterday.

Worachon Dulwit, secretary-general of the International Student Centre of Thailand, said many employers were reluctant to take on new graduates with a bachelor's degree because they did not want to pay the 15,000 baht starting salary promised by the Pheu Thai-led government during its election campaign last year.

Instead, employers have opted to hire diploma holders to cut costs, Mr Worachon said.

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[Moolor]

"rectify the situation", wonder how many degree holders will lose their jobs.

[Song_Si]

not Thailand, but across the border in Cambodia, a salary survey from the Phnom Penh Post

Full article here, and some edits to follow:

Note: at today's exchange rates 1,000 riel (KHR) is approx US 25c, 4000 to the dollar, 100,000 = USD$25 and so on.

Thailand's 300-baht per day is USD$9.70, almost 40,000KHR.

Easy to see why there is a constant flow of people coming here seeking employment.

Salary In Different Occupations

• Tourism Workers earn KHR 323,937 per month on an average
• Restaurant Workers earn KHR 280,629 per month on an average
• Machine maintenance and repair service workers earn KHR 400,700 per month on an average

Minimum Wages for the year 2010 to 2014

• The minimum wage for a regular worker in Cambodia is 256,200 KHR per month. While an apprentice earns 126,000 KHR per month with regular working hours, a probationary earns 235,2000 KHR per month.

Wages for teachers

Wages Per Month
Average 358,885KHR 90USD
Min 20,000KHR 5USD
Max 800,000KHR 200USD
This data on wages is based on interviews with 142 teachers in Phnom Penh, Battambang, Kampong Cham, Siem Reap and Sihanoukville. The sample included primary school teachers, vocational education teachers, post-secondary teachers, secondary education teachers and university professors and lecturers.

Wages for public administrators

Wages Per Month
Average 470,663 118
Min 150,000 37.5
Max 1,000,000 250

About the data

The data on wages are based on a Wage Survey conducted by the Cambodia Institute of Development Study and Wage Indicator Foundation taken on March 3, 2011 to April 28, 2011 in Phnom Penh and four different provincial towns (Battambang, Kampong Cham, Sihanoukville and Siem Reap).