Thai temper

[skycop51]

hangovers and that. I am a older Retired Vietnam Veteran one who has lived a few years around the world. I am sick and just trying to live in peace. Atrocities here oh yes, there are no no's here, messIing with Thai Police is not a win win proposition. I live a bland life. Do not screw with anyone, shop, travel and do enjoy what I have earned.
I hope you all find your Peace, Pray to God everyday, something is about to happen if you have not noticed. Wake up please.

Originally Posted by Farang

Sounds to me that you're living "la vida loca"!
I can understand how travelers mistake true identity in comparison to a working expat.
I would be in heaven if my days could be spent rolling out of bed when ever the booze wore off, or scratching my ass while thinking which cereal to eat, "Coco Crunch or All Bran".
I see where you're coming from and applaud your decision to kick life in the balls and do as you please. In fact I envy your idle life stlye and wish to God that I could be a real globe trotter and suck in that fresh air without a worry in my mind.
Until CR comes to play mate I have to slug it tout, today we have a staff meeting with 150 disgruntled Thai's and explain why Spa therapists get a 10% commission, might have to call my friend the Police Chief to stand by...
Cheers to you Skycop, you are a bloody gem! 555!

[Farang]

Well you've definately earned your stripes, no arguement there. I still disagree with you on a few points, but hey that's why we're here on this forum.
Not sure what you meant by "wake up", the world is a differnt place today than it was in the 60's, that's for sure. I'm not going to give you my resume Skycop, but if this ain't waking up I need Alice to lead me back to the rabbit hole.

Farang

[frogblogger]

Originally Posted by Farang

Let's remember where he lives, I agree it's not fair to generalize an entire population. But as a current resident of the southern provinces I have to agree a bit in that most Thai's here (large tourist destination) simply do not like farang.

My experience is that *some* don't particularly like the attitude of a certain sort of farang. Not the same thing at all. And quite understandable too, from what I've witnessed of the behaviour of a sizeable proportion of Western visitors.

Originally Posted by Farang

I'm certain by what you write you are the most popular fellow in all of Thailand, but come on friend, let's take note from some of the expats that spend day and day out living here. Or people like myself who live here, it's not peaches and cream as you make it out to be.

Hold on there... I'm one of these expats, don't forget!

Originally Posted by Farang

I don't know you, but it seems to me (and pardon my assumption) that you come to Thailand and have a some what sheltered environment which obviously gives way to your bias of how things are in this country.

Well as you say - you certainly don't know me! Unlike many I live virtually entirely in the company of a broad cross section of Thais, mostly pretty poor. I am married to a Thai, have a Thai child. I live in a relatively poor area of Chiang Mai, with precisely the kind of neighbours one might think would resent the average farang, going from previous descriptions. So "Farang", how do you think it can be that I've avoided any difficulties?

Originally Posted by Farang

Just pick up the news paper now and then and you'll see violent explosions over a few baht. Let's not forget the young Canadian couple who travelled to Chang Rai a year or two ago. A police officer was signalling them and asked for a bribe, their naive approach had the young man get his brains blown away and the girl pistol whipped for simply arguing with the official police man. Special case, I think not, happens everyday.

Anyone can produce anecdotal accounts that prove nothing, for any country in the world. Bribery, corruption, cronyism, are big problems in this country, I certainly wouldn't suggest otherwise. But I can come up with horror stories for any nation - and they are of course meaningless, proving nothing on a national/cultural scale. Less of the patronising attitude too - I "pick up as many newspapers" as the next man.

Originally Posted by Farang

Best thing would be to tell me to get out if I'm not content, not so easy as I'm on contract and married now. But believe me Frogblogger once I reach the point I will not shed a tear when it's time to leave.

Shame you haven't come to appreciate all that is beautiful about the country and its people. Your loss!

Originally Posted by Farang

I'm certain i will come back for holiday as my wife is from the southern provinces, but like you I'll be in la la land and spend endless days exploring and waking up when ever the first brew of joe is made up for me.

One thing you should have cottoned on to by now. I'm no mug. The main reason I've not had a problem in Thailand or anywhere else come to that is that generally speaking, I can see it coming. Those that have problems are usually the naive sort who are unable to adapt to different ways, and blunder around making mistake after mistake.

Originally Posted by Farang

The point to my endless jabbering is please measure out the experience of different circumstances. This forum is to discuss everyone's experiences, so I think with all due respect read and perhaps learn another side to this wonderful place.

If you haven't understood that the only way someone like me can avoid the problems you refer to, is by being more aware of them than most, more adept at dealing with them, and in most cases pre-empting their becoming a problem in the first place, then I am beginning to understand why you are having such a hard time in Thailand!

[frogblogger]

Originally Posted by Farang

Well you've definately earned your stripes, no arguement there. I still disagree with you on a few points, but hey that's why we're here on this forum.
Not sure what you meant by "wake up", the world is a differnt place today than it was in the 60's, that's for sure. I'm not going to give you my resume Skycop, but if this ain't waking up I need Alice to lead me back to the rabbit hole.

Farang

Well the wake-up call is addressed to one and all, and I reckon I can guess exactly what he is referring to. The world has been blissfully heading down a one-way road to economic and ecological disaster for a while now, and the consequences may be dire indeed.

As for the digs ref Skycop's non-working expat status (and mine come to that) - I put in the hours, spent most of my working life abroad having set up my own business, and it happened to be a 'shift' that allowed me to 3/4 retire aged 39, having started with absolutely nothing. Of course to get 'lucky' it helps if one can successfully integrate into the culture where one has chosen to live and work, to perfectly understand the work ethic of the country in question, the people, the way their minds work.

Those unable to do this generally speaking end up going home with their tails between their legs ...

[Farang]

Mr.Frogblogger,
You certainly deserve a cold saucer of milk, great arguements with a tad of "temper temper" in your reply, interesting.
Me sir, well I guess a man like yourself has it all figured out, I tip my hat to you sir...
What can I say, your jive if quite savoury and easy to digest. In the end this forum allows us to express our opinions and I'm greatful for that.
You remind me of my ex-girl friend, French Canadian, polically correct know it all, sorry had to throw that one in...
I'm in Phuket mate, come visit me some time and I'll take you on a tour. Talk is cheap I always say. And since you're a fellow expat in Thailand it might be a nice get away for you to see what I'm taking about...

Farang

[Farang]

Here here!!

[King Silk]

What ever anyone says Thais have a short fuse....end of story.

[frogblogger]

Originally Posted by Farang

Mr.Frogblogger,
You certainly deserve a cold saucer of milk, great arguements with a tad of "temper temper" in your reply, interesting.
Me sir, well I guess a man like yourself has it all figured out, I tip my hat to you sir...
What can I say, your jive if quite savoury and easy to digest. In the end this forum allows us to express our opinions and I'm greatful for that.
You remind me of my ex-girl friend, French Canadian, polically correct know it all, sorry had to throw that one in...
I'm in Phuket mate, come visit me some time and I'll take you on a tour. Talk is cheap I always say. And since you're a fellow expat in Thailand it might be a nice get away for you to see what I'm taking about...

Farang

Phuket? Been there, done that, too many obnoxious farangs. No thanks mate! I prefer living in Thailand.

You're the one who made the uncalled for sly jibes - you need to be able to take a few in return. You started the thread, asked some questions. Sorry if the answers you got weren't the ones you wanted to hear!

[skycop51]

at the end. Very hard to say what I mean without writing a book. My country is in real trouble now economically. With a President who may not even be a citizen. Weather is changing not mostly our fault, lots going on most not good. That is what I meant, do some research. OK admit I listen to Savage Nation, I believe in Borders,Language, Culture, Ours.

All my best and without this or that I am happy with my uncomplicated life here in Thailand. Troubles here, I do not go to any clubs, do not go out to that scene. Makes me boring or smart? Do not mess with Police, if I must buy them lunch once and a while then I will.

Originally Posted by frogblogger

My experience is that *some* don't particularly like the attitude of a certain sort of farang. Not the same thing at all. And quite understandable too, from what I've witnessed of the behaviour of a sizeable proportion of Western visitors.

Hold on there... I'm one of these expats, don't forget!

Well as you say - you certainly don't know me! Unlike many I live virtually entirely in the company of a broad cross section of Thais, mostly pretty poor. I am married to a Thai, have a Thai child. I live in a relatively poor area of Chiang Mai, with precisely the kind of neighbours one might think would resent the average farang, going from previous descriptions. So "Farang", how do you think it can be that I've avoided any difficulties?

Anyone can produce anecdotal accounts that prove nothing, for any country in the world. Bribery, corruption, cronyism, are big problems in this country, I certainly wouldn't suggest otherwise. But I can come up with horror stories for any nation - and they are of course meaningless, proving nothing on a national/cultural scale. Less of the patronising attitude too - I "pick up as many newspapers" as the next man.

Shame you haven't come to appreciate all that is beautiful about the country and its people. Your loss!

One thing you should have cottoned on to by now. I'm no mug. The main reason I've not had a problem in Thailand or anywhere else come to that is that generally speaking, I can see it coming. Those that have problems are usually the naive sort who are unable to adapt to different ways, and blunder around making mistake after mistake.

If you haven't understood that the only way someone like me can avoid the problems you refer to, is by being more aware of them than most, more adept at dealing with them, and in most cases pre-empting their becoming a problem in the first place, then I am beginning to understand why you are having such a hard time in Thailand!

[skycop51]

Just got back from Koh Chang and Koh Mak farangs there they count on it. But quite if you ask me and very unspoiled. Plenty of bars and girls if you want it. You know what I think about that I have my wife and am so happy.

Good luck and Peace.