Thai temper - Page 2

Farang · #11 (**permalink**) 24th February 2009, 10:41 AM

You are right Nomad, people here are pissed at so many strangers taking more control of their land. To some extent I completely understand them, just sometimes from my side it's exausting. I invest alot of time in developement and it often goes unnoticed and unappreciated. What to do, as long as I'm here I'll savour my experience and hopefully look back and laugh at some of the things I went through....

KhwaamLap · #12 (**permalink**) 24th February 2009, 01:11 PM

Yeah agree with Nomad4Evere - where there are lots of tourists/backpackers (of the kee-nok kind) you will find disgruntled Thais. Large, drunk, semiclad, loutish football hooligans abound in parts of BKK, Pattaya and Phuket - can't really blame them for not liking us much.

The keyed car and rock may be an ex-employee or something - lots of Thais loosing their jobs right now and it does little to remove the nationistic xenophobia.

King Silk · #13 (**permalink**) 27th February 2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nomad4ever

For me it all depends as well on the region or location. If there are more foreigners, even the coolest Thais loose their temper easier. One example is Phuket, where I stayed something around 8 months.

There are so many foreigners now, that plenty of Thais are upsets and sometimes don't even suppress their anger with foreigners allegedly taking over their territory. And I'm not even talking about the struggles of the local bar mafia with the Russians. There are plenty of contract killings just between the locals alone, let alone fights with foreigners.

And let's not even talk about Pattaya.

But hey, it's maybe like in Real Estate: Location, location, location.

;-)

No Lets talk about Pattaya where I have lived for the last five years.
The first thing to remember is that there are more young guys and gals here than in Isaan. They are here to get hold of as much Farang Cash as possible, and they are expert at it.
Pattaya is certainly NOT the LOS. You are lucky to get a smile once a week and it will only be because you are buying something, in a Market say.
Coming from UK as I do, I am used to miserable faces so it doesn't bother me when I am confronted with them.

Tempers here are easily frayed and violence flares up every where any time with
shootings and stabbings being so regular we hardly bother to take note, unless we are involved. The secret when trouble appears likely is to walk away asap!.
Thais don't just want to win a fight, they mostly want to kill. It's in their nature.

But, perhaps THE most important thing to remember is that they don't want us here. They hate our guts, and only put up with us 'cos they get money from us.
Sorry, but it's true........

Fedup with female money grabbers, I now live alone with my lovely Dogs.
They NEVER ask me to send Mama bones.........

nomad4ever · #14 (**permalink**) 28th February 2009, 03:27 PM

King Silk, agree with you 100%. I lived in Phuket for a while and it is fast becoming similar to Pattaya. Where I live now, Goa in India, it's on a similar road also. Especially now during the economic downturn, people in the tourist industries become desperate.

In 3 months I will return to South East Asia, probably Indonesia or Philippines, some place not too close to mass tourism.

Like I said: Location, location, location.

;-)

skycop51 · #15 (**permalink**) 1st March 2009, 06:14 AM

I have lived off and on in Thailand for many years. I know the Thai's fairly well. I find them for the most part very friendly and more so if you can speak a bit of Thai. Even if you just simply say hello. Of course you see resentment in some faces, that is not the norm. I have a good time, I smile and say hello. I plan to live here the rest of my life and plan on being happy. What about you?

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Originally Posted by Farang

I'm an ex-pat and have been living in Thailand now for two years, I'm married to a Thai woman and seem to get a better understanding of the culture. The only thing that has me baffled sometimes is how often I witness violent response on minor issues such as asking for something different in a restaurant from local Thai people. I have also witnessed my boss get a rock thrown at his car one night and breaking his window before going home, and another Thai colleague getting his car keyed all around. Is this normal? I'm curious to know if there are any other Western or European ex-pats that either lived it or see it more often than none. I asked my wife and she said most Thai's, unless they have a close relationship with a foreigner do not particulary like foreigners, especially ex-pats; any comments?
Cheers!
Farang

Farang · #16 (**permalink**) 2nd March 2009, 02:14 AM

Good on you that you found your happiness in Thailand. Perhaps if I had a posh villa to live in and a job that allowed me to work less with locals and more with internationals I might find this island a lovely place to settle down to.
But my reality might just be a tad different than yours, I don't find any humor in having to be a professional babysitter to any grown man or woman.
What I actually plan to do is tough it out until I finish my contract and then go back home for a spell, my real dream is to settle in Costa Rica. 5 1/2 hour flight to Toronto so I can see my family. My Thai wife is thrilled, she'll have more opportunity there and if you've never been to Costa Rica friend it's amazing!

skycop51 · #17 (**permalink**) 2nd March 2009, 12:03 PM

have to put up with anything really. I get up when I want, go where I want (travel alot) and do what I want. So my perspective is different to be certain. Do not anymore have money to travel internationally but can live well in Thailand. I have heard CR is wonderful, so is Koh Chang, Koh Mak etc. good luck nice hearing from you.

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Originally Posted by Farang

Good on you that you found your happiness in Thailand. Perhaps if I had a posh villa to live in and a job that allowed me to work less with locals and more with internationals I might find this island a lovely place to settle down to.
But my reality might just be a tad different than yours, I don't find any humor in having to be a professional babysitter to any grown man or woman.
What I actually plan to do is tough it out until I finish my contract and then go back home for a spell, my real dream is to settle in Costa Rica. 5 1/2 hour flight to Toronto so I can see my family. My Thai wife is thrilled, she'll have more opportunity there and if you've never been to Costa Rica friend it's amazing!

Farang · #18 (**permalink**) 3rd March 2009, 03:55 AM

Sounds to me that you're living "la vida loca"!
I can understand how travelers mistake true identity in comparison to a working expat.
I would be in heaven if my days could be spent rolling out of bed when ever the booze wore off, or scratching my ass while thinking which cereal to eat, "Coco Crunch or All Bran".
I see where you're coming from and applaud your decision to kick life in the balls and do as you please. In fact I envy your idle life stlye and wish to God that I could be a real globe trotter and suck in that fresh air without a worry in my mind.
Until CR comes to play mate I have to slug it out, today we have a staff meeting with 150 disgruntled Thai's and explain why Spa therapists get a 10% commission, might have to call my friend the Police Chief to stand by...
Cheers to you Skycop, you are a bloody gem! 555!

frogblogger · #19 (**permalink**) 3rd March 2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by King Silk

No Lets talk about Pattaya where I have lived for the last five years.
The first thing to remember is that there are more young guys and gals here than in Isaan. They are here to get hold of as much Farang Cash as possible, and they are expert at it.
Pattaya is certainly NOT the LOS. You are lucky to get a smile once a week and it will only be because you are buying something, in a Market say.
Coming from UK as I do, I am used to miserable faces so it doesn't bother me when I am confronted with them.

Tempers here are easily frayed and violence flares up every where any time with
shootings and stabbings being so regular we hardly bother to take note, unless we are involved. The secret when trouble appears likely is to walk away asap!.
Thais don't just want to win a fight, they mostly want to kill. It's in their nature.

But, perhaps THE most important thing to remember is that they don't want us here. They hate our guts, and only put up with us 'cos they get money from us.
Sorry, but it's true........

Fedup with female money grabbers, I now live alone with my lovely Dogs.
They NEVER ask me to send Mama bones.........

Don't want to knock your view too much - we're all entitled to our opinions - but talk about a stereotype!

Pattaya's got its bad side, no doubt about that, but it doesn't represent Thailand or the Thai people any more than Benidorm represents Spain, or Saint Tropez France, etc etc etc.

A country of murderous xenophobic money-grabbers? Boy, you must have had some bad experiences! I, on the other hand, must be fated to have the most incredible of good luck in comparison, having somehow managed to avoid anyone remotely like you describe - despite spending my entire time in the country in the company of Thais.

Perhaps I misunderstand and you weren't inferring that the inhabitants of Pattaya were in any way representative of the remainder of the country.

Farang · #20 (**permalink**) 4th March 2009, 04:11 AM

Let's remember where he lives, I agree it's not fair to generalize an entire population. But as a current resident of the southern provinces I have to agree a bit in that most Thai's here (large tourist destination) simply do not like farang.
I'm certain by what you write you are the most popular fellow in all of Thailand, but come on friend, let's take note from some of the expats that spend day and day out living here. Or people like myself who live here, it's not peaches and cream as you make it out to be.
I don't know you, but it seems to me (and pardon my assumption) that you come to Thailand and have a some what sheltered environment which obviously gives way to your bias of how things are in this country.
Just pick up the news paper now and then and you'll see violent explosions over a few baht. Let's not forget the young Canadian couple who travelled to Chang Rai a year or two ago. A police officer was signalling them and asked for a bribe, their naive approach had the young man get his brains blown away and the girl pistol whipped for simply arguing with the official police man. Special case, I think not, happens everyday.
Best thing would be to tell me to get out if I'm not content, not so easy as I'm on contract and married now. But believe me Frogblogger once I reach the point I will not shed a tear when it's time to leave.
I'm certain i will come back for holiday as my wife is from the southern provinces, but like you I'll be in la la land and spend endless days exploring and waking up when ever the first brew of joe is made up for me.
The point to my endless jabbering is please measure out the experience of different circumstances. This forum is to discuss everyone's experiences, so I think with all due respect read and perhaps learn another side to this wonderful place.
Thanks Frogblogger, appreciate your comments.

FARANG