Move to Spain???!?? Help!!! - Page 3

chris(madrid) · #21 (**permalink**) 22nd September 2008, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jojo

but I know what you mean about Telefonica etc just taking the money out of the bank account without warning - that really annoys me!

BUT IT SHOULDN'T, Jo - You signed an agreement, basically a DIRECT DEBIT.

You could quite easily PAYG. But miss a payment - you'd be cut off AND have to then pay and wait for reconnection. My in-laws did this for YEARS whilst the old chap was unsure of earnings.

AND WHY ARE YOU CALLING THE UK ON A LAND LINE? - Look at SKYPE.

jojo · #22 (**permalink**) 22nd September 2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chris(madrid)

BUT IT SHOULDN'T, Jo - You signed an agreement, basically a DIRECT DEBIT.

You could quite easily PAYG. But miss a payment - you'd be cut off AND have to then pay and wait for reconnection. My in-laws did this for YEARS whilst the old chap was unsure of earnings.

AND WHY ARE YOU CALLING THE UK ON A LAND LINE? - Look at SKYPE.

Skype doesnt work in my village (I can use it to text, but it freezes when I try to audio or video call) as my connection is under 1mb - even though I'm paying telefonica for 3mb. My OH has tried to phone them about this, but they hang up when they realise he cant speak spanish!!! Any advice??

As for the paying thing, actually its something that annoys me. I get the bill about a week AFTER they've taken the payment and yes, I got cut off once cos my bank account was TWO WHOLE EUROS short - If I'd had the bill first, I would have tranferred TWO EUROS LOL!! How do I get the bill first?? Whats PAYG?

chris(madrid) · #23 (**permalink**) 22nd September 2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jojo

Skype doesnt work in my village (I can use it to text, but it freezes when I try to audio or video call) as my connection is under 1mb - even though I'm paying telefonica for 3mb. My OH has tried to phone them about this, but they hang up when they realise he cant speak spanish!!! Any advice??

DON'T TRY VIDEO BELOW 6MB - EVER.

I used SKYPE before on 1MB with no problems. The issue is MOST LIKELY NOT SO MUCH the 3MB RECEIVE its the SEND which is most likely 128 or 256K (this is normal) the 3MB btw is an upto thing! Officially this is TF's base tarif. You should look for a Telefonica office near to you and GO IN PERSON. But This is Spain and Spanish is a must.

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Originally Posted by jojo

As for the paying thing, actually its something that annoys me. I get the bill about a week AFTER they've taken the payment and yes, I got cut off once cos my bank account was TWO WHOLE EUROS short - If I'd had the bill first, I would have tranferred TWO EUROS LOL!! How do I get the bill first?? Whats PAYG?

PAYG - Pay As You Go. and you've discovered the problem already.

You maybe able to arrange with the bank that they advise you when you receive these bills. Ours will call. Getting the ADVICE first - this may be posible if you use the TF online service - I don't know - I make them send me paper.

chris(madrid) · #24 (**permalink**) 22nd September 2008, 11:23 AM

Jo - Go to HERE and run against the nearest Pyramid - and also against one in the UK

Stravinsky · #25 (**permalink**) 22nd September 2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jojo

Skype doesnt work in my village (I can use it to text, but it freezes when I try to audio or video call) as my connection is under 1mb - even ?

For what its worth I use SKYPE regularly on a 512 rural connection

crookesey · #26 (**permalink**) 22nd September 2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chris(madrid)

DON'T TRY VIDEO BELOW 6MB - EVER.

I used SKYPE before on 1MB with no problems. The issue is MOST LIKELY NOT SO MUCH the 3MB RECEIVE its the SEND which is most likely 128 or 256K (this is normal) the 3MB btw is an upto thing! Officially this is TF's base tarif. You should look for a Telefonica office near to you and GO IN PERSON. But This is Spain and Spanish is a must.

PAYG - Pay As You Go. and you've discovered the problem already.

You maybe able to arrange with the bank that they advise you when you receive these bills. Ours will call. Getting the ADVICE first - this may be posible if you use the TF online service - I don't know - I make them send me paper.

Chris made a comment a while ago relative to the wife and I moving to Spain, he said something like 'you will muddle through'. I took issue, but the more that I think about it that's just what we want to do.

No kids to bring up, so no schooling to worry about, no intention of working, so no great career changes, our state and private pensions and savings should see us through. We have a liking to live on an urbanisation with a mixture of different nationalities for neighbours, we don't live in the pockets of our neighbours in the UK so don't expect this to change in Spain.

We will quite simply retire to the sun as aversed to retiring in the rain. However if we were 30 years younger, with a young family, mortgage etc, I dont think either of us would me able to muster up enough courage.

I am very much an observer of people these days and note that the Brits that hang around bars touting their dubious talents are not earning, they are just spending. At my mates villa I see the pool man working (80 euros per month), he spends around I hour per week there. The couple that do the gardening (120 euros per month) spend around 5 hours per month there. The woman that does the full clean changeovers and half cleans charges circa 50 euros for a full clean and 25 euros for a half clean, this includes clean sheets and towels, however it is hardly ever rented these days irrespective of it being pure luxury.

I replied on this thread because my mate has a land line with a small ariel screwed into the gismo. You dial a four figure number prior to dialing the actual number, this works both outwards and inwards and is supposed to be very reasonable, anyone know what system this is?

chris(madrid) · #27 (**permalink**) 22nd September 2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by crookesey

Chris made a comment a while ago relative to the wife and I moving to Spain, he said something like 'you will muggle through'. I took issue, but the more that I think about it that's just what we want to do.

Muddle I think - Muggle sounds very Harry Potter

- And whilst I'm a Wizard sort of chap - Magic I'm not. I was spared muddling by marrying a Spaniard.