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[Happyexpat]

Ah the slippery slope of degenerative standards (tongue in cheek). Of course I agree you cannot apply blanket standards across the board BUT does it have to be so complex. I still think it needs to be simplified and turned around so that justice is on the side of victim rather than the criminal. In many increasing instances this is clearly not the case.

[mrypg9]

Originally Posted by Happyexpat

Ah the slippery slope of degenerative standards (tongue in cheek). Of course I agree you cannot apply blanket standards across the board BUT does it have to be so complex. I still think it needs to be simplified and turned around so that justice is on the side of victim rather than the criminal. In many increasing instances this is clearly not the case.

I think you are talking about sentencing policy in which case I agree.

[Alcalaina]

Originally Posted by Happyexpat

Ah the slippery slope of degenerative standards (tongue in cheek). Of course I agree you cannot apply blanket standards across the board BUT does it have to be so complex. I still think it needs to be simplified and turned around so that justice is on the side of victim rather than the criminal. In many increasing instances this is clearly not the case.

But it isn't always that simple to declare who is the victim and who is the criminal.

If justice were applied throughout society and not just in the courts, there would I'm sure be fewer criminals.

Not a popular view I know, but to me the greatest injustice is the obscenely unequal distribution of wealth. These days nobody makes a fortune by hard work and thrift - they make it by exploiting others.

[JoCatalunya]

If I work 10 hours to buy myself something I want, then I am beggared if some little oik can come in and spend 10 minutes thieving it and so depriving me of that something.

By the way, the definition of theft in the UK statute is, 'taking something which does not belong to you, with the intention of depriving its rightful owner of it permanently'.

[Happyexpat]

I did actually mean sentencing policy rather than simply justice, so thank you for that. As for permanently depriving the owner etc totally correct which is why some smart alec lawyer lawyer came up with splitting it up for yobs taking your car for joy rides but leaving it somewhere for you to find, maybe smashed up. TDA versus a straight up theft as 'no intention to permanently deprive'. How stupid is that!
Somehow I cannot support the idea that because I have earnt enough money to buy a stereo its ok for somebody who is broke to come along and nick it. Of course wealth is distibuted unevenly, it always has been and always will be, its still no excuse in my opinion. Statistically over 70% of petty theft is drug related, what am I, a funder for drug taking, I think not!
Anyway actually the real problem lies not with the thief but the 'fence' and the buyer of stolen goods, no market for stolen property equals greduced rates of theft!