im a 24yr old newly wed - get me out of here

[maquee8]

Hi all,
newbie here - im just married, and want to start a better life. UK living is already grinding on me, bad weather, bad leaders, working to pay the tax man on EVERYTHING - i need to get out of this country - gone to the dogs.


can anyone recommend the best path for me to get info, jobs,accom,etc etc.

many thanks in advance

Mark

[Byo]

Originally Posted by maquee8

Hi all,
newbie here - im just married, and want to start a better life. UK living is already grinding on me, bad weather, bad leaders, working to pay the tax man on EVERYTHING - i need to get out of this country - gone to the dogs.


can anyone recommend the best path for me to get info, jobs,accom,etc etc.

many thanks in advance

Mark

Unfortunately that is life, you have to pay the tax man. At least you know where the money is going too.

[chris(madrid)]

You think Spanish leaders are any better!?

And before you do too much attacking the tax man - take at look at who has more disposable income. UK or SPAIN.

The weather is generally better though - mind you, not this week it isn't.

The work situation here is not great either Mark. You're better off thinking you'll be self-employed or basically on min wage. I hope you get lucky - but the dole has grown already by over 1/4 million this year. Many of these being fluent Spanish speakers and accustomed to being treated as second grade citizens - who'll take short term poor paid contracts - long hours.

I've a mate in the UK currently setting up his move - He's fully aware that for a year he probably wont get much work and has capital to cover this. Seems very sensible idea to me at the mo'.

[myqute]

Er....what happened to your spouse? Have you both discussed where you can both relocate to?

Everywhere living expenses are high unless you live in an atap house somewhere in Kuwait or Vietnam.

Why not try working on both your finances...like may be getting a job with higher pay. Impress at interviews without lying - it may land you a better job.

As for the weather I am afraid there's nothing much you can do about it except to adapt or move to a warmer country. I wish you much luck and feel free to pop me a private question if you feel I can give you anymore suggestions.


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[jojo]

Although I love it here in Spain, its certainly no pic-nic! The cost of petrol is about the same as the UK and rising daily, the cost of food is rocketing and I would say its about the same as the UK, wages here are poorer, jobs are scarce unless you speak spanish well enough to compete with the locals. Infact although I know what you're saying about the UK, its really not much different here, apart from the fact that people dont seem to take so much notice (and Gordon Brown isnt here LOL). The world wide ecconimic crisis is happening here too!

On the plus side: The weather here is better, although this week is cloudy, the views are better, the sense of space, freedom and openess is better, cigarettes and booze are cheaper and there's no issue about smoking in most bars. Gas, electiricity and amenity bills seem to be cheaper too, but not sure for how much longer.

So think carefully, perhaps come over for a research holiday, before you take the plunge!?!

Jo

[Stravinsky]

Originally Posted by jojo

Although I love it here in Spain, its certainly no pic-nic! The cost of petrol is about the same as the UK and rising daily, the cost of food is rocketing and I would say its about the same as the UK,

I've heard people further south say this before, but I never understand it. The cost of fuel in the UK is about £1.29 I think from what I saw on TV the other day, whereas here in Spain I'm paying about €1.28, so cheaper. Cost of food seems to be down to where you shop, but we have always found it cmuch cheaper in the UK. I am horrified on how much we pay back in the UK.

The main thing that hurts is the current r/ex as we "earn" in £ and spend in €

[chris(madrid)]

Originally Posted by Stravinsky

I've heard people further south say this before, but I never understand it. The cost of fuel in the UK is about £1.29 I think from what I saw on TV the other day, whereas here in Spain I'm paying about €1.28, so cheaper. Cost of food seems to be down to where you shop, but we have always found it cmuch cheaper in the UK. I am horrified on how much we pay back in the UK.

The main thing that hurts is the current r/ex as we "earn" in £ and spend in €

About two weeks ago I paid about 1.25pounds a litre for diesel in the UK. And here - yup about 1,25 €/L . But petrol is cheaper than diesel in the UK and more expensive here.

Food depends WHERE you shop 100% ime. But where it's cheap there is GENERALLY less choice. If you're happy to eat SPANISH style meals then Spain is still very cheap to eat in. If you want "international" offer and a range like (say) Sainsburys - then expect to pay Corte Ingles prices.

[Stravinsky]

Originally Posted by chris(madrid)

About two weeks ago I paid about 1.25pounds a litre for diesel in the UK. And here - yup about 1,25 €/L . But petrol is cheaper than diesel in the UK and more expensive here.

Food depends WHERE you shop 100% ime. But where it's cheap there is GENERALLY less choice. If you're happy to eat SPANISH style meals then Spain is still very cheap to eat in. If you want "international" offer and a range like (say) Sainsburys - then expect to pay Corte Ingles prices.

Well I rarely eat UK products here any more. Fruit and veg from the local market ...... we shop in mercadonna or Carrefour, or sometimes buy fresh fish off the boats at the fish market

Diesel at Carrefour today I noticed was €1.33 a litre, but you get a discount off that when you take your till receipt in

You're right, at Lidl and Aldi things can be a lot cheaper, but your choice is limited to what they have in at the time

[Big Pete]

Originally Posted by Byo

Unfortunately that is life, you have to pay the tax man. At least you know where the money is going too.

Rubbish thats not life its a existence
life was back in the good old days in the then Great Britain

We dont live in the Uk we survive and that is a major difference ..

[Big Pete]

Originally Posted by jojo

Although I love it here in Spain, its certainly no pic-nic! The cost of petrol is about the same as the UK and rising daily, the cost of food is rocketing and I would say its about the same as the UK, wages here are poorer, jobs are scarce unless you speak spanish well enough to compete with the locals. Infact although I know what you're saying about the UK, its really not much different here, apart from the fact that people dont seem to take so much notice (and Gordon Brown isnt here LOL). The world wide ecconimic crisis is happening here too!

On the plus side: The weather here is better, although this week is cloudy, the views are better, the sense of space, freedom and openess is better, cigarettes and booze are cheaper and there's no issue about smoking in most bars. Gas, electiricity and amenity bills seem to be cheaper too, but not sure for how much longer.

So think carefully, perhaps come over for a research holiday, before you take the plunge!?!

Jo

Sorry jojo your wrong on the fuel .. its the exchange rate thats wrong at the moment .. but fuels and most items are cheaper in Spain .. as Strav says i agree with him .