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Old 24th April 2008, 08:34 AM
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Hi,

I've just joined this forum as we finally acquired our apartment on a development in Denia last year (was delayed 2 years, but that’s how it is I'm told) I would like to know what the average Electricity and Water charges would be on a monthly basis. The apartment is 2 bedroom 2 bathroom, lounge with open plan kitchen (85 m2 in all) with 3 converter A/C’s installed. I can appreciate that electricity will be more in the summer and winter if we are running the A/C’s or Heating but an indication of cost would be appreciated. I receive the bills from the administration of the development and just want to check if there are over charging or not.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Have you received the original of the suppliers of electricity and water or just the bills of the administration of your development without any details
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Thanks for the reply,

I've received the bills from the administration, they have identified the consumption along with the unit cost of the water, at 3,5535 per unit (up to October 07 it was 3,1506 so it has gone up 12.8% since then) and the electricity at 0.1352. My total bills since occupying the apartment (July last year) has been Electricity Euros 81.43 and Water Euros 35.54. May not sound like a lot but we only used the apartment for 4 weeks in July / August 07 and spent a week there in February this year. We used A/C during the summer and heating in February.

Look forward to your feedback.

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Hi Dec

I have a detached 2/3 bed villa with pool and aircon

You will be with Iberdrola and you will be paying about 9.33 cents a kw for electricity. For us, that is working out about €170 - €190 every two months (you are billed every two months), and that is with us using a log burner in the winter months. Electricity is not one of the things that you will find here that is cheap.

You need to ascertain what your potencia is. Ours is 5.75 Kw, and is just about OK for our villa although we always get a small fine. Its not unusual for holiday villas to be fitted out with something like 3 kw, and if you then live there full time you will be getting constant fines for over usage. You can of course upgrade, and you just pay a slightly higher standing charge.

For water, our last quarter bill was €39.75. It more or less doubles in the summer due to water loss from the pool.

I'm interested to know why you are receiving electricity bills from the administration of the development and I hope it is not the reason I think it is. Your property should have its own electricity meter. It would indicate that the building is still on builders electricity, and if that is so you need possibly to check this out and take legal advice. If your house is registered properly it is only YOU that will receive an electricity bill and water bill direct from the providor normally.
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Thanks again for the feed back, the development is an Aparthotel, (Jacaranda on La Sella, Pedreguer, Alicante) it's on mains electric and water, each property has its own meter, I have seen mine in a service cupboard with all the other meters for each block of 4 apartments. For the pool etc I pay a community charge so the electricty and water we've used is purley our own consumption. I have told the administration that I will take my own meter reading when I am next there and check it out myself, I'll also find out what the potencia is. Based on what your consumption is the electric seems about right, however the water seems to be a bit high.

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Thanks again for the feed back, the development is an Aparthotel, (Jacaranda on La Sella, Pedreguer, Alicante) it's on mains electric and water, each property has its own meter, I have seen mine in a service cupboard with all the other meters for each block of 4 apartments. For the pool etc I pay a community charge so the electricty and water we've used is purley our own consumption. I have told the administration that I will take my own meter reading when I am next there and check it out myself, I'll also find out what the potencia is. Based on what your consumption is the electric seems about right, however the water seems to be a bit high.

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We are not far from Pedregeur, and in fact we go to the market there quite regularly on a Sunday morning. Is it near the Golf Course
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That's the area, we in fact can see the golf course, including the extra 9 holes they are putting in from our terrace. The company that owns the Marriot along with the golf course built our development so they are a reputable company, they are also the administration. It’s just that with the delays that were involved and the laid back approach in Spain (which I like by the way) I just want to make sure they are charging the right rate. They did mention when I queried the charges that there had bee a problem with the meters but it was now “OK” I’ll do my own checking just to be sure.

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Hi Stravinsky,

You had mentioned in a previous reply that the electricity should be about 9.33 cents, I just had a look at my last bill and the rate applied is 13.52 cents, 45% more could this be right? also the water is being charged at 3,5535 Euros per unit (I'm not sure of the unit, cubic meters??)
The bill reads as follows:
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Consumo luz desde hasta 14/03/08 442,00 0,1352 59,76
Consumo agua hasta 14/03/08 10,00 3,5535 35,54
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Total 95,24

I look forward to your comments.
Thanks and regards,
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Afaik Iberdrolas current rate for day time electricity is 9.3303 per kw, just gone up from 9.0320, The standing charge changes depending on your potencia. I have seen this rate discussed and confirmed on different forums, so I am fairly certain. The rate of 13.52 seems .......... suspect. I should ask why the difference, and if you are with Iberdrola which is almost certain.

My water bill (Aquagest Levante) was charged at
1.24
0.22
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The last bill, including pool fillage, was €39.75, December to March.

You seem to be living in an expensive part of the CB North. Do they add a management charge for doing all this do you think?

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Hi Stravinsky,

You had mentioned in a previous reply that the electricity should be about 9.33 cents, I just had a look at my last bill and the rate applied is 13.52 cents, 45% more could this be right? also the water is being charged at 3,5535 Euros per unit (I'm not sure of the unit, cubic meters??)
The bill reads as follows:
Unidas Precio Importe

Consumo luz desde hasta 14/03/08 442,00 0,1352 59,76
Consumo agua hasta 14/03/08 10,00 3,5535 35,54
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Total 95,24

I look forward to your comments.
Thanks and regards,
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Thanks for the information, something doesn't seem to be quite right, I'm going to be there in a couple of months so I'll check these charges out with the administration then.
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