Immigration Vic, Barcelona

[Pesky Wesky]

There are some problems with empadronamiento in Vic

Rights groups condemn Spain over blocking healthcare for immigrants [ WORLD BULLETIN- TURKEY NEWS, WORLD NEWS ]

[lynn]

Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

There are some problems with empadronamiento in Vic

Rights groups condemn Spain over blocking healthcare for immigrants [ WORLD BULLETIN- TURKEY NEWS, WORLD NEWS ]

I wasn't aware that signing on to the padron gave rights to healthcare in Spain? I must be missing something

[xabiachica]

Originally Posted by lynn

I wasn't aware that signing on to the padron gave rights to healthcare in Spain? I must be missing something

it doesn't - but you do have to be on the padron to get it

[Pesky Wesky]

Originally Posted by lynn

I wasn't aware that signing on to the padron gave rights to healthcare in Spain? I must be missing something

According to what I'm hearing and the minister is saying, immigrants, legal or illegal have two basic human rights - healthcare and education - and to get those you only need the padron, so it does give you the right to health care...

[xabiachica]

Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

According to what I'm hearing and the minister is saying, immigrants, legal or illegal have two basic human rights - healthcare and education - and to get those you only need the padron, so it does give you the right to health care...

free??

non-emergency?

I'm thinking of all the people in the Valencia region who only chose this area because of the promise of free access to healthcare


but now the government has removed that right, as I know has been discussed here before

there was a march recently

brits march for healthcare rights

[Pesky Wesky]

Originally Posted by xabiachica

free??

non-emergency?

I'm thinking of all the people in the Valencia region who only chose this area because of the promise of free access to healthcare


but now the government has removed that right, as I know has been discussed here before

there was a march recently

brits march for healthcare rights

Yes, I know, but this is what I mean, when Rubalcaba says"inmigrantes tienen el derecho a la sanidad y la educación" First paragraph

Rubalcaba señala que el padrón sirve para garantizar los derechos sociales también de los inmigrantes 'sin papeles'. europapress.es

[xabiachica]

Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

Yes, I know, but this is what I mean, when Rubalcaba says"inmigrantes tienen el derecho a la sanidad y la educación" First paragraph

Rubalcaba señala que el padrón sirve para garantizar los derechos sociales también de los inmigrantes 'sin papeles'. europapress.es

the right to health & education eh?

that's going to set the cat among the pigeons!

the quote marks could be misleading though - did Rubalcaba say that or is the reporter putting his own slant on what constitutes human rights?

[lynn]

In a couple of years time, when our E106 certificate expires, we will be obliged to take out private medical insurance, as we don't pay into the Spanish social security system, and are not of state pensionable age. I don't fancy my chances quoting the fact that I have 'a basic human right to healthcare'.

[Pesky Wesky]

OK, I'm not trying to prove anybody wrong, it's just what's being reported in all the media. This is what Zapatero has said today...

El jefe del Ejecutivo español, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, ha asegurado que no permitirá que por un "truco" de un Ayuntamiento, en referencia a la intención del de Vic de no permitir el empadronamiento de los inmigrantes en situación irregular, haya personas que queden sin asistencia sanitaria o cuyos hijos no puedan acudir a la escuela.

José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, has given assurance that he will not allow there to be people who are not covered by health care nor children unable to attend school because of a trick by a Town Hall referring to the intention of Vic to not allow illegal immigrants the padron.

From this article, first paragraph
Zapatero afirma que no admitirá "trucos" que limiten los derechos de los inmigrantes - RTVE.es

So what asistencia medica are they referring to exactly??

[SteveHall]

Valencia will do whatever they feel like. That is the experience of the past ten years and unless Zappy and Camps can kiss and make up (highly unlikely!) the Valencia position will always be opposed to anything coming from the PSOE "leadership"