Garantia de Alquiler - can anyone explain it's significance ?

[Suenneil]

Ben

I can understand landlords wanting to protect themselves in the best way they can against non payment of rent etc ... but I WOULD NOT SIGN anything like the document you have mentioned on here. There are plenty of properties out there for rent and if I were you I would just walk away from this one and find something else.

Sue x

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Veronica

I can understand why the landlords are trying to protect their interests.
We have the same sort of thing happening in Cyprus,we get emails from other agents giving us name and details of bad tenants to look out for and some of the things they do is appalling.

Veronica

It is quite horrendous isnt it!! I've seen two properties where the landlord had only just started cleaning up after these "tenants" had vacated and I couldnt believe that people could actually live like that, let alone leave the places so disgusting. It wasnt as if they'd messed the houses up on purpose as some kind of a warped vendetta - these houses had obviously been lived in by pigs....... who needed training in the art of using a toilet and keeping it and the surrounding area clean And they hadnt paid a days rent apparently!!! Good old Brits at their best!

Jo xxx

[Veronica]

Originally Posted by jojo

It is quite horrendous isnt it!! I've seen two properties where the landlord had only just started cleaning up after these "tenants" had vacated and I couldnt believe that people could actually live like that, let alone leave the places so disgusting. It wasnt as if they'd messed the houses up on purpose as some kind of a warped vendetta - these houses had obviously been lived in by pigs....... who needed training in the art of using a toilet and keeping it and the surrounding area clean And they hadnt paid a days rent apparently!!! Good old Brits at their best!

Jo xxx

Its people like that that cause problems for the decent Brits and give us all a bad name abroad. Those sort of people should be banned from leaving Britain, passports impounded. On second thoughts then Britain would full of them. Maybe an island in the middle of the Atlantic just for these slobs, that'll make the world so much nicer for the rest of us.:clap 2:

[Expat Ben]

Originally Posted by Suenneil

Ben

I can understand landlords wanting to protect themselves in the best way they can against non payment of rent etc ... but I WOULD NOT SIGN anything like the document you have mentioned on here. There are plenty of properties out there for rent and if I were you I would just walk away from this one and find something else.

Sue x

I agree and think it's a sad state of affairs when landlords resort to these tactics and the way is was explained to me by the owner was clearly nothing but a smokescreen and there's no way I'm signing such a document as I do not wish to start out with mis-trust and that's exactly what it's all about

[mrypg9]

Originally Posted by Xose

Completely agree with the sentiment. However, the law doesn't quite work like that. Think back to the Labour UK pre 90 and trying to evict people from your let property. And if it was unfurnished and if they had children


Xose

We owned and rented out properties in the pre 90s (otherwise known as the Thatcher years). Our tenancy agreements were drawn up according to the Rental Laws in force at the time - the only law brought in by a previous Labour Government was the much-needed Prevention of Eviction Act. The fact is there are abuses by both sides. Scrooge-like landlords and unspeakable tenants.
We had only one difficult tenant in an unfurnished property but we observed due process and the tenant was swiftly moved on.
As well as signing a legally-binding contract on the property we now rent we agreed to sign a garantia. We are careful tenants -having been landlords we know how important this is -and always pay at least a quarter's rent in advance because it suits us to do so. I can't see how signing this document has disadvantaged us in any way.
I have only been here a comparatively short time but I can understand why some landlords insist on taking every possible precaution when renting to British immigrants here. Most are decent, honourable people but there are more than enough petty crooks, not-so-petty crooks, fraudsters and people fleeing from various unmet obligations in the UK. I f I were a landlord here, I would be very very wary indeed and take every legally available step to protect myself and my property.

[mrypg9]

Originally Posted by xabiachica

Object of the Guarantee

a)Payment of the monthly rent
b) Payment of costs relating to services and supplies
c) Damage caused by misuse of the premises or contents
d) renewal of bank guarantee
e) Recovery of the property immediately if the contract is breached
f) carrying out works without consent
g) transfer of the property or subletting without consent

Having read these clauses again, I can't see what is so exceptional. All this should be in any standard rental contract, surely?
These are standard conditions inserted in a contract to protect the interests of both parties.
Landlords rent properties for financial gain, not altruism. The market currently favours renters so if you don't like the terms and conditions on offer you can easily find somewhere more agreeable to you.
But a responsible landlord will insist on putting everything in legally-binding terms so as to avoid misunderstandings by both parties.
We were not asked to pay anything on signing our garantia but I believe it cost our landlord 50 euros...

[Xose]

Originally Posted by mrypg9

We owned and rented out properties in the pre 90s (otherwise known as the Thatcher years). Our tenancy agreements were drawn up according to the Rental Laws in force at the time - the only law brought in by a previous Labour Government was the much-needed Prevention of Eviction Act. The fact is there are abuses by both sides. Scrooge-like landlords and unspeakable tenants.
We had only one difficult tenant in an unfurnished property but we observed due process and the tenant was swiftly moved on.
As well as signing a legally-binding contract on the property we now rent we agreed to sign a garantia. We are careful tenants -having been landlords we know how important this is -and always pay at least a quarter's rent in advance because it suits us to do so. I can't see how signing this document has disadvantaged us in any way.
I have only been here a comparatively short time but I can understand why some landlords insist on taking every possible precaution when renting to British immigrants here. Most are decent, honourable people but there are more than enough petty crooks, not-so-petty crooks, fraudsters and people fleeing from various unmet obligations in the UK. I f I were a landlord here, I would be very very wary indeed and take every legally available step to protect myself and my property.

Yeah, that's why I said Labour UK - way pre-90 Sorry, loosing track of time.

Back when I was referring to, the tenant under the then Labour laws were pretty much there for life if they so wished. Obvously there were routes to take, but when you bought to let, that's what you did. Renting out your house was a HUGE risk.

Even so, in the early 80's, a friend of mine found himself with a rented house where the tenants refused to pay rent. They were trying it on and it was a "bedsit house" typical of the room to let London we know and love. Basically, one of them had difficulties and decided to get the others to join in and just not pay - for whatever cooked up reason they decided on. He first went in with all guns blazing threatening this, that and the other. Big mistake. Then he didn't pay bills and thus had services terminated. They had been well informed and soon after he received a letter from a solicitor telling HIM that HE was breaking the law. Keep in mind he hadn't had any rent for 6 months.

Cut a long story short, he then took the route he should have taken from month one of no rent. Within another 6 months or so they were out. But it took more than 12 months and a court case for them to leave the house. As they pleaded poverty and had no assets to talk off, he had to grin and bear it. Not sure what the bottom line was - if they had to pay him 50p a month for a thousand years or what - but it was hell on earth and the house was sold soon after.

Lesson for me was - never, ever, ever rent your one and only home and hope to have no issues with tenants.

Xose

[mrypg9]

Originally Posted by Xose

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Lesson for me was - never, ever, ever rent your one and only home and hope to have no issues with tenants.

Xose

Very wise words.
The experience we had with the one bad tenant put us off -we were excellent landlords, though I say it myself. After that experience, we sold our properties and have now spent all the money!!!