Residency Certificates, NIE numbers & Padrón

[xgarb]

I got my Certificado De Registro and NIE number in Motril, Granada today. Here's how I did it:

Arrived at the Comisaría Local de Motril (Ronda del mediodía S/N - Big white building) at about 11.
Spanish lady pointed out the desks for this department (in front as you go in).
Sat down with the funcionario who typed all the details in from my pre-filled form (http://extranjeros.meyss.es/es/Model...omunitaria.pdf)
Told to go the bank to pay
Returned after payment and given a green credit-card sized registration certificate.
Total time - 1 hour!

I was asked if I had photos and just said firmly 'no' and the funcionario left it at that. I saw someone else giving a finger print but this might have for something different. I had two pre-filled copies of the form and a photocopy of my passport.

Also the first bank I went to (Banco de Granada I think) couldn't process the payment, possibly because the NIE was new and didn't appear on their computers. I remember reading about others having to try various banks so walked to Allianz Sabadell and it worked there.

Easy when you've done it!

[Stravinsky]

Originally Posted by xgarb

I got my Certificado De Registro and NIE number in Motril, Granada today. Here's how I did it:

Arrived at the Comisaría Local de Motril (Ronda del mediodía S/N - Big white building) at about 11.
Spanish lady pointed out the desks for this department (in front as you go in).
Sat down with the funcionario who typed all the details in from my pre-filled form (http://extranjeros.meyss.es/es/Model...omunitaria.pdf)
Told to go the bank to pay
Returned after payment and given a green credit-card sized registration certificate.
Total time - 1 hour!

I was asked if I had photos and just said firmly 'no' and the funcionario left it at that. I saw someone else giving a finger print but this might have for something different. I had two pre-filled copies of the form and a photocopy of my passport.

Also the first bank I went to (Banco de Granada I think) couldn't process the payment, possibly because the NIE was new and didn't appear on their computers. I remember reading about others having to try various banks so walked to Allianz Sabadell and it worked there.

Easy when you've done it!

Well done .... however you have to bear in mind things differ considerably from place to place.

For instance in Gandia you have to go one morning to queue for a ticket for the following morning. They only process so many tickets a day, so they only give out that number. You can arrive at 7 in the morning and there is already a queue.

Then, when you get there the following morning you sit and wait .... in the number queue .... sometimes for 3 hours or so. Then in essence the system is the same.

[JTapas]

I posted this in another thread, but thought i'd do it again on this one in the hope of reaching even more potential samaritans, considering that I am absolutely desperate for answers!


I'm from the UK and have been working in Andalucia for 18 months over the last two years and have held an NIE number which I have never had to change despite moving from Cadiz to Granada last September. However, at some point during this move, I must have mislayed the original copy of my NIE certificate (the A4 sized green piece of paper rather than the neat little card that a few lucky ones seem to have). I realized this soon afterward and although I knew I would have to replace it, I wasn't too alarmed at the time because my photocopy seemed to suffice in any case that I needed to present the certificate.

Now, as an Engish Teacher I will not be employed this summer and had planned to claim el paro (dole). Most will know that in order to do this you absolutely have to have an original copy of the NIE. This occured to me about three months ago so I decided to get the ball rolling. The ball, however, has rolled so painfully slowly that I now find myself at the end of my 9-month contract still without an actual NIE certificate.

I've been pinged about countless offices all over Granada, having been instructed to pay this, obtain that, take that there blah blah you get the picture. Two and a half months down the line I finally have everything in order and take the lot with me to la oficina de extranjero...only to be told that because of some law that is currently undergoing 'change', the administration of NIEs, whether brand new or simply duplicates, is now unpermitted. They told me to go to la oficina del empleo to ask for a 'written NIE', of which I was very dubious, in order to be able to claim dole. Of course, upon my arrival, the utterly disinterested woman staring back at me over her desk gives me that sort of 'what the hell are you on about and what do you expect me to do about it?' look.

I think I want to cry. Please help me somebody

[Pesky Wesky]

Originally Posted by JTapas

I posted this in another thread, but thought i'd do it again on this one in the hope of reaching even more potential samaritans, considering that I am absolutely desperate for answers!


I'm from the UK and have been working in Andalucia for 18 months over the last two years and have held an NIE number which I have never had to change despite moving from Cadiz to Granada last September. However, at some point during this move, I must have mislayed the original copy of my NIE certificate (the A4 sized green piece of paper rather than the neat little card that a few lucky ones seem to have). I realized this soon afterward and although I knew I would have to replace it, I wasn't too alarmed at the time because my photocopy seemed to suffice in any case that I needed to present the certificate.

Now, as an Engish Teacher I will not be employed this summer and had planned to claim el paro (dole). Most will know that in order to do this you absolutely have to have an original copy of the NIE. This occured to me about three months ago so I decided to get the ball rolling. The ball, however, has rolled so painfully slowly that I now find myself at the end of my 9-month contract still without an actual NIE certificate.

I've been pinged about countless offices all over Granada, having been instructed to pay this, obtain that, take that there blah blah you get the picture. Two and a half months down the line I finally have everything in order and take the lot with me to la oficina de extranjero...only to be told that because of some law that is currently undergoing 'change', the administration of NIEs, whether brand new or simply duplicates, is now unpermitted. They told me to go to la oficina del empleo to ask for a 'written NIE', of which I was very dubious, in order to be able to claim dole. Of course, upon my arrival, the utterly disinterested woman staring back at me over her desk gives me that sort of 'what the hell are you on about and what do you expect me to do about it?' look.

I think I want to cry. Please help me somebody

I'm really sorry to hear you've found it so difficult to get the NIE. I don't think I've ever heard of it being so difficult. In the past, all you had to do was fill in a form (to be found in the sticky at the top of the page called forms, education, cars..., post number 1) and take it to a police station with extranjería department...
You're right, the law is changing now and everything's topsy turvy as you can see from some of the threads here.
However, I have to tell you that I don't think you're eligible for unemployment benefit as you need to have worked for 12 months (not necessarily in a row) before being able to claim. Is this your case???
Look at this
Qué requisitos hay que cumplir

Además de perder el empleo de forma definitiva o temporal, para tener derecho a la prestación por desempleo hay que cumplir otros requisitos. Son éstos:

• Estar afiliado y en situación de alta o asimilada al alta en la Seguridad Social en un régimen que contemple la contingencia por desempleo.
• Encontrarse en situación legal de desempleo y acreditar disponibilidad para buscar trabajo activamente y para aceptar una colocación adecuada.
• Haber cotizado a la Seguridad Social durante un período de al menos doce meses. No es necesario haber trabajado doce meses seguidos, sino doce meses en total durante los seis años anteriores al momento de perder el empleo.
• No haber cumplido la edad que da derecho a la pensión de jubilación.

Taken from here

http://www.laboris.net/static/ca_der...brar-paro.aspx

Aren't your employers helping?

[JTapas]

Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

I'm really sorry to hear you've found it so difficult to get the NIE. I don't think I've ever heard of it being so difficult. In the past, all you had to do was fill in a form (to be found in the sticky at the top of the page called forms, education, cars..., post number 1) and take it to a police station with extranjería department...
You're right, the law is changing now and everything's topsy turvy as you can see from some of the threads here.
However, I have to tell you that I don't think you're eligible for unemployment benefit as you need to have worked for 12 months (not necessarily in a row) before being able to claim. Is this your case???
Look at this
Qué requisitos hay que cumplir

Además de perder el empleo de forma definitiva o temporal, para tener derecho a la prestación por desempleo hay que cumplir otros requisitos. Son éstos:

• Estar afiliado y en situación de alta o asimilada al alta en la Seguridad Social en un régimen que contemple la contingencia por desempleo.
• Encontrarse en situación legal de desempleo y acreditar disponibilidad para buscar trabajo activamente y para aceptar una colocación adecuada.
• Haber cotizado a la Seguridad Social durante un período de al menos doce meses. No es necesario haber trabajado doce meses seguidos, sino doce meses en total durante los seis años anteriores al momento de perder el empleo.
• No haber cumplido la edad que da derecho a la pensión de jubilación.

Taken from here


Aren't your employers helping?

Hi. Thanks for replying. I worked for nine months in Cadiz Oct 2010-June 2011 for a different company. So with those months combined with this year's, claiming shouldn't be a problem. I just have to get this damn duplicate!

A colleague has been with me a couple of times to help clarify certain things that just go way over my head in Spanish, so I know that there has been no misunderstanding. I'm going back tomorrow morning and I intend to be a little more assertive this time! Can't help but feel like it's going to be just another morning of brick-wall head-banging though...

[snikpoh]

Originally Posted by JTapas

I posted this in another thread, but thought i'd do it again on this one in the hope of reaching even more potential samaritans, considering that I am absolutely desperate for answers!


I'm from the UK and have been working in Andalucia for 18 months over the last two years and have held an NIE number which I have never had to change despite moving from Cadiz to Granada last September. However, at some point during this move, I must have mislayed the original copy of my NIE certificate (the A4 sized green piece of paper rather than the neat little card that a few lucky ones seem to have). I realized this soon afterward and although I knew I would have to replace it, I wasn't too alarmed at the time because my photocopy seemed to suffice in any case that I needed to present the certificate.

Now, as an Engish Teacher I will not be employed this summer and had planned to claim el paro (dole). Most will know that in order to do this you absolutely have to have an original copy of the NIE. This occured to me about three months ago so I decided to get the ball rolling. The ball, however, has rolled so painfully slowly that I now find myself at the end of my 9-month contract still without an actual NIE certificate.

I've been pinged about countless offices all over Granada, having been instructed to pay this, obtain that, take that there blah blah you get the picture. Two and a half months down the line I finally have everything in order and take the lot with me to la oficina de extranjero...only to be told that because of some law that is currently undergoing 'change', the administration of NIEs, whether brand new or simply duplicates, is now unpermitted. They told me to go to la oficina del empleo to ask for a 'written NIE', of which I was very dubious, in order to be able to claim dole. Of course, upon my arrival, the utterly disinterested woman staring back at me over her desk gives me that sort of 'what the hell are you on about and what do you expect me to do about it?' look.

I think I want to cry. Please help me somebody

I think we should make it clear to all that might read this thread - getting an NIE is simple and you have one.

What is not so simple is getting the 'residencia' (green sheet).



So, my question is, do you need a residencia or just an NIE to get a job? If it's just an NIE, then it should be fairly straight forward to get a replacement copy of your existing one - provided you ask the correct question at the correct place. This has NOTHING to do with being a foreigner.

If, however, you do need a (green) residencia, then yes, this is hard at the moment.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by JTapas

Hi. Thanks for replying. I worked for nine months in Cadiz Oct 2010-June 2011 for a different company. So with those months combined with this year's, claiming shouldn't be a problem. I just have to get this damn duplicate!

A colleague has been with me a couple of times to help clarify certain things that just go way over my head in Spanish, so I know that there has been no misunderstanding. I'm going back tomorrow morning and I intend to be a little more assertive this time! Can't help but feel like it's going to be just another morning of brick-wall head-banging though...

I know things may have changed, but a couple of years ago I lost my residencia/NIE. I first had to go to the police to report it officially stolen (it wasnt but...) Once the police had given me an official incident number, I then had to go to the NIE office and they simply reprinted my green form, I also had to change my address on it, so they did that too.

I've made that sound so simple havent I - IT WASN'T!! I cried, I argued, I went from pillar to post, I even had a tantrum, it took two weeks, but I eventually got it lol!!! "I feel your pain" as they say!!!!

Jo xxx

[JTapas]

Originally Posted by jojo

I know things may have changed, but a couple of years ago I lost my residencia/NIE. I first had to go to the police to report it officially stolen (it wasnt but...) Once the police had given me an official incident number, I then had to go to the NIE office and they simply reprinted my green form, I also had to change my address on it, so they did that too.

I've made that sound so simple havent I - IT WASN'T!! I cried, I argued, I went from pillar to post, I even had a tantrum, it took two weeks, but I eventually got it lol!!! "I feel your pain" as they say!!!!

Jo xxx

So I went back to la oficina de extranjero and was told exactly the same thing, although this time I was told to request an 'INEM' which they said was a three-month residency document which will do as a temporary replacement for the official NIE, or something? However she then added that to grant INEMs in circumstances such as these is purely at their discretion, and that I would essentially have to go in and just say 'please' a few times.

Fortunately it seemed to work! When I went to la oficina del empleo they understood the situation a bit better now that they actually knew what it was that I was requesting. They said that I should come back with a photocopy of my passport and all other relevant documents (in check!) and they'll it ready for me by next week!

Persistence certainly does pay off!

[LizM]

Hi, New to the forum but have lived in Sevilla for two years now. We have our NIEs and have recently changed our address with the city hall. We don't have anything called a 'Residency Permit', what is it and do we need it?? Sorry to sound dumb but I thought we had done everything needed. Thanks.

[snikpoh]

Originally Posted by LizM

Hi, New to the forum but have lived in Sevilla for two years now. We have our NIEs and have recently changed our address with the city hall. We don't have anything called a 'Residency Permit', what is it and do we need it?? Sorry to sound dumb but I thought we had done everything needed. Thanks.

After 90 days of living in Spain, you are required to sign on the 'list of foreigners' this is sometimes referred to as having a 'residencia'.

This was a green sheet of paper having your NIE printed on it along with other 'stuff'. In some areas, this is now a laminated piece of paper about the size of a credit card.

So, if you search this site for the word 'residencia' and/or forms EX18 and EX19, you should get all the help you need.