Residency Certificates for EU residents

[bluespain]

Originally Posted by Stravinsky

Its not unclear
Its only unclear if you listen to these huge numbers of expats out there that think they know everything and still drive around in UK reg cars after 10 years

You need a residence certificate to be legal here

The download here afaik is the up to date one.
I've been told you get a combined NIE & residencia certificate nowadays

Being a Newbie im not sure if this is the right place for me to be but it concerns the residencia cert everything you quoted about the cert is correct. My tale of woe is really for the members who reside in the Granada Province and have to use the main Police Station in Granada I cannot comment on the other two Stations one I think is in Motril.On Tuesday I arrived at the Police Station at 7am joined the queue waiting for my number at about 8.30am I was told by a student that if I didnt have a number I should go home as they were given out at 5am. All the people waiting in the line were non EU citizens mainly students,the queue is for everyone no provisions for EU citizens.It seems you will have to leave home very early to reach there for 5am I would be interested to hear from anyone who has had the same problem or anyone who has resolved the problem.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by bluespain

Being a Newbie im not sure if this is the right place for me to be but it concerns the residencia cert everything you quoted about the cert is correct. My tale of woe is really for the members who reside in the Granada Province and have to use the main Police Station in Granada I cannot comment on the other two Stations one I think is in Motril.On Tuesday I arrived at the Police Station at 7am joined the queue waiting for my number at about 8.30am I was told by a student that if I didnt have a number I should go home as they were given out at 5am. All the people waiting in the line were non EU citizens mainly students,the queue is for everyone no provisions for EU citizens.It seems you will have to leave home very early to reach there for 5am I would be interested to hear from anyone who has had the same problem or anyone who has resolved the problem.

When we got our NIE numbers we went with a gestor (pr was he an abogado?? cant rmemeber now!!). he charged us 60 euros, but he took us in his car, he found a parking space (that alone was worth the money!!) and he ushered us in, passed the very long queues waiting and were were out again within half an hour with our numbers!!

Jo

[Eva33]

Originally Posted by jojo

When we got our NIE numbers we went with a gestor (pr was he an abogado?? cant rmemeber now!!). he charged us 60 euros, but he took us in his car, he found a parking space (that alone was worth the money!!) and he ushered us in, passed the very long queues waiting and were were out again within half an hour with our numbers!!

Jo

Can you give me the name and address of this guy? Mine was not able to do this and did know nothing from nothing about the whole matter.

[bluespain]

Originally Posted by jojo

When we got our NIE numbers we went with a gestor (pr was he an abogado?? cant rmemeber now!!). he charged us 60 euros, but he took us in his car, he found a parking space (that alone was worth the money!!) and he ushered us in, passed the very long queues waiting and were were out again within half an hour with our numbers!!

Jo

Hi thanks for the quick reply we have already tried a gestor but he stated he couldnt do it. I think the problem is the different Provinces have all got there own ideas this leads to chaos.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Eva33

Can you give me the name and address of this guy? Mine was not able to do this and did know nothing from nothing about the whole matter.

His name is Alejandro Murcia vila, I have his e-mail address. do you live in my area Alhaurin de la Torre as this is where he works?? (the Murcia in his name is coincidental)

Jo

[Stravinsky]

Originally Posted by jojo

When we got our NIE numbers we went with a gestor (pr was he an abogado?? cant rmemeber now!!). he charged us 60 euros, but he took us in his car, he found a parking space (that alone was worth the money!!) and he ushered us in, passed the very long queues waiting and were were out again within half an hour with our numbers!!

Jo

You may have got your NIE through him, but you can't use them to get residencia as you have to apply in person.

And yes, the queues are as bad up here!

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Stravinsky

You may have got your NIE through him, but you can't use them to get residencia as you have to apply in person.

And yes, the queues are as bad up here!

I went with my landlady to do that and her daughter works in the Town Hall, so that was easy too!!! I know , I'm a smart @rse!!! LOL

Jo

[Eva33]

Originally Posted by jojo

His name is Alejandro Murcia vila, I have his e-mail address. do you live in my area Alhaurin de la Torre as this is where he works?? (the Murcia in his name is coincidental)

Jo

Thanks! But its to far away from me. I am in Alicante. As Stravinsky points out for the residency you have to appear personally anyway, but they let the lawyer in with you -ONLY THE LAWYER, NO FAMILIARS :-( -
Actually the only problem is the standing in line, but maybe its possible to pay someone to do this and give you a call short before its your turn.

[mrypg9]

All this is a tad confusing. I thought getting a Residency Permit in the Czech Republic was complicated and time-consuming.....so in the end I paid someone £200 to get it for me. I have never been asked to show it to police etc and when I present it with my passport when I arrive at Prague airport from my regular UK trips it is brushed aside with disinterest - not even glanced at.
I have made use of it only once, when I registered a car I bought. Before I got the Permit, I asked a Czech friend to register our other car in her name. I could have asked her to register the second one too. So the Permit is something you can live without here.
I understand that it's different in Spain so could someone please tell me EXACTLY what I need to do in the way of permits, certificates etc. so that I may legitimately do the following things as soon as we arrive in December:

register two vehicles, both lhd, both on UK plates and full Europe-wide insurance, both in my ownership for longer than six months and both with European Certificates of Conformity;

get an internet service provider sorted;

possibly -not definitely- open a Spanish bank account. I'm not sure whether I'll need to do this as we have off-shore and Czech bank euro accounts. Advice would be welcomed.

We will be permanently resident in Spain as soon as we find a suitable villa/finca. Just as we've done in the Czech Republic, we'll do what we have to to meet all legal requirements. We'll do it ourselves if possible, if not or if it involves hours and hours of standing in queues then we'll seek paid assistance, as we did here.

[Eva33]

Originally Posted by mrypg9

All this is a tad confusing. I thought getting a Residency Permit in the Czech Republic was complicated and time-consuming.....so in the end I paid someone £200 to get it for me. I have never been asked to show it to police etc and when I present it with my passport when I arrive at Prague airport from my regular UK trips it is brushed aside with disinterest - not even glanced at.
I have made use of it only once, when I registered a car I bought. Before I got the Permit, I asked a Czech friend to register our other car in her name. I could have asked her to register the second one too. So the Permit is something you can live without here.
I understand that it's different in Spain so could someone please tell me EXACTLY what I need to do in the way of permits, certificates etc. so that I may legitimately do the following things as soon as we arrive in December:

register two vehicles, both lhd, both on UK plates and full Europe-wide insurance, both in my ownership for longer than six months and both with European Certificates of Conformity;

get an internet service provider sorted;

possibly -not definitely- open a Spanish bank account. I'm not sure whether I'll need to do this as we have off-shore and Czech bank euro accounts. Advice would be welcomed.

We will be permanently resident in Spain as soon as we find a suitable villa/finca. Just as we've done in the Czech Republic, we'll do what we have to to meet all legal requirements. We'll do it ourselves if possible, if not or if it involves hours and hours of standing in queues then we'll seek paid assistance, as we did here.

Nobody can tell you what you will need! There are exact regulation and agreements, which are signed by the European Community between third countries and Spain. The Spanish representations in the different countries do either no know about them or they prefer to make their own. As far as I know, there is not much we can due about this. If someone has some ideas, please let me know.
Just one sample about my own experience: I am a Swiss citizen. The regulation between Switzerland and Spain is absolutely clear and transparent. Swiss citizens and their family members, whatever nationals they are, have the right to reside in Spain without any further requirements, as long as the marriage is legal in Europe - which is my case -. My wife is stuck in the Philippines and cannot come to Spain. The Spanish consulate does ask her to make some medical tests and to bring a bunch of documents, which are not required by the bilateral regulation. It is impossible to contact the consulate otherwise as by calling a call center, with girls answering, which do not care and not understand your problem. They usually give you an appointment in six weeks from the time you call. This is the way it works.