The cost of Living Sticky - Page 8

Ivor · #71 (**permalink**) 27th July 2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by El Capitan

Good god man, no way. Could never get away from the reek.

The more you smoke, the less you smell it, the cheaper it becomes. There is an upside

JBODEN · #72 (**permalink**) 2nd September 2009, 09:54 AM

How can one attach an COLI excel file to this post?

Pesky Wesky · #73 (**permalink**) 21st October 2009, 10:51 AM

This has info about almost everything, petrol prices, food, hours of sunshine... Compares european countries. Top countries France and Spain

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Bottom countries UK and Ireland

Please note

This year’s index does not reveal the full impact of the recession – this can be expected to show next year.

I still think it's worth looking at!!

JBODEN · #74 (**permalink**) 21st October 2009, 12:19 PM

PW That is certainly interesting.
I noticed that cigaretes in PL are GBP 1.08 - that is the price of cigaretes with the worst quality tobacco. 'Normal' cigies are GBP 2 minimum.
The alcohol figure I just can't understand. Is it a weekly monthly or annual figure?
% spending on education & health is wrong (... I think, but I'll check again) ... and the net household income after tax ... Ha! A crazy figure. The average wage is approx. PLN 3000 per month [EDIT: gross!] which is the equivalent of GBP 8000 p.a. , so x 1.33 = GBP 10,500 [EDIT: Net of taxes and NIC = GBP 7000]. They have a figure of GBP 21,331 which is ridiculous.

Pesky Wesky · #75 (**permalink**) 21st October 2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JBODEN

PW That is certainly interesting. I noticed that cigaretes in PL are GBP 1.08 - that is the price of cigaretes with the worst quality tobacco. 'Normal' cigies are GBP 2 mininmum. Alcohol is wrong as well as % spending on education & health. And the net household income after tax ... Ha! A crazy figure. The average wage is approx. PLN 3000 per month which is the equivalent of GBP 8000 p.a. , so x 1.33 = GBP 10,500 (they have a figure of GBP 21,331 which is ridiculous).

I know you hate averages JB, but "I still think it's worth looking at!"

JBODEN · #76 (**permalink**) 21st October 2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

I know you hate averages JB, but "I still think it's worth looking at!"

Not true! I don't hate averages. Call me Mister Average!
I am interested in the figures but when I see 3 or 4 stats that are obviously wrong I become concerned about all the stats.
In the case of cigies - if the cheapest are GBP 1.08 then how can the average be 1.08. That would mean that 100% of the population is smoke the cheapest. That is patently untrue because, if it were true there wouldn't be any of the better brands on the market.

Pesky Wesky · #77 (**permalink**) 21st October 2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JBODEN

Not true! I don't hate averages. Call me Mister Average!
I am interested in the figures but when I see 3 or 4 stats that are obviously wrong I become concerned about all the stats.
In the case of cigies - if the cheapest are GBP 1.08 then how can the average be 1.08. That would mean that 100% of the population is smoke the cheapest. That is patently untrue because, if it were true there wouldn't be any of the better brands on the market.

OK Mr. Average

(Is your name Joe as in Joe Public??!)

I got interested because I thought it had so much data compared and contrasted which would be really useful to the forum members. Perhaps I should analyse what I'm reading !!??

If it's a load of cr*p perhaps we should just get rid of it...

Xose · #78 (**permalink**) 21st October 2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

OK Mr. Average

(Is your name Joe as in Joe Public??!)

I got interested because I thought it had so much data compared and contrasted which would be really useful to the forum members. Perhaps I should analyse what I'm reading !!??

If it's a load of cr*p perhaps we should just get rid of it...

Hi PW,
I have several of those countries (not Poland mind) as reference and they look fine to me. Please don't delete it. It'll be goog to compare aginst the next one when the crisis movements do get factored in.

Thanks,
Xose

JBODEN · #79 (**permalink**) 21st October 2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

... perhaps we should just get rid of it...

No way! It's a usefull starting point. I'll try and contact the authors and ask them where they got their source data. Maybe they have a weird x-rate? Who knows.
Hopefully other Countries will be more accurate.
Do you accept the average wage for Spain?

Pesky Wesky · #80 (**permalink**) 21st October 2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JBODEN

No way! It's a usefull starting point. I'll try and contact the authors and ask them where they got their source data. Maybe they have a weird x-rate? Who knows.
Hopefully other Countries will be more accurate.
Do you accept the average wage for Spain?

A bit low, isn't it? Says it's for one 100% salary plus another at 33%...