I cant see me ever going back to this !!

[Calas felices]

Well there's lies, damn lies and the Daily Mail..

It only takes seconds to see the flaws in the article but only if you want to. One poster said 'Violent crime is violent crime everywhere - not if it's defined differently it isn't.

Lets just examine the article.

The figures, compiled by the Tories, - so no bias there then - are considered the most accurate and up-to-date available.

But criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors, including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is reported and measured.
New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime today

New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime today

In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured.

There are also degrees of violence. While the UK ranks above South Africa for all violent crime, South Africans suffer more than 20,000 murders each year - compared with Britain's 921 in 2007.


By all means make your point if you compare like with like but that wasn't what you wanted to do was it?

[mike kelly]

Originally Posted by SunnySpain

One could easily point to the example of the member of ETA who was convicted of murdering more than 20 people (with bombs mainly) and yet he was released within 2 years - a bad crime / criminal and a joke legal system to boot

really? that seems incredible

[Suenneil]

Originally Posted by the sarge

Hi Sue
Reread my last post comes over a bit strong as "I know it all",
So I must apologise to you, I lived abroad in an Army environment with all the support that I needed being provided.
All I wanted was to say is that I have had that experience but this time I have to ensure that I do it as best as I can and achieve what I want, so all help is genuinely appreciated.

Sorry If I offended you
Peter

Hey Pete ! you didnt offend me honestly!! We often say that its difficult to get the "tone" across in the written word! much easier when we are talking face to face ..... but trust me I took no offence at all !