I cant see me ever going back to this !!

[mickybob]

Originally Posted by jojo

If someone is really desparate for cash, for heavens sake rob a bank, dont hurt others or take other peoples hard earned possessions!!!!!

Jo xxx

Sorry Jo, I usualy agree with a lot of what you say but this I cant. I cant think of something more frightening that being a work and some B*^&$"d comming in and putting a gun to your face screaming at you to give them the money not knowing if you are going home at the end of the day, or to hospital or worse. My sister-in-law worked in a bank in Northern Ireland, and she told me that when a branch gets robbed, the staff have to have counceling to get over it. Robbibg a bank, for the staff, is just like being mugged. Terifying.

[milton43]

Originally Posted by jojo

I´m not just blaming the media for exaggerating, its also their almost "glorification" of how bad things are in the UK, they make it acceptable to those who seek attention and encourage that kind of behaviour!

Being mugged is grim and I´m sorry it happened to you, I hope they caught em!! Sadly, tho that happens in most countries and its a horrible crime, its so personal and thoughtless. If someone is really desparate for cash, for heavens sake rob a bank, dont hurt others or take other peoples hard earned possessions!!!!!

Jo xxx

thank you jo for that it is just how i feel i has made me look hard at life could be a good lesson personal i have no family so for me finding a good comunnity is paramount hence i still look to residential mobile home site with this establised for poeple who are like minded

[♪♫♪♪♫☺]

So the US has relinquished it's dubious accolade of "most violent in the industrialized world" to another country?! Wow, never thought I'd see that in my lifetime.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by mickybob

Sorry Jo, I usualy agree with a lot of what you say but this I cant. I cant think of something more frightening that being a work and some B*^&$"d comming in and putting a gun to your face screaming at you to give them the money not knowing if you are going home at the end of the day, or to hospital or worse. My sister-in-law worked in a bank in Northern Ireland, and she told me that when a branch gets robbed, the staff have to have counceling to get over it. Robbibg a bank, for the staff, is just like being mugged. Terifying.

yes, I´m sorry, I worded that badly. I meant that (well actually if someone needs money they should damn well go out and earn it honestly!!!!!) I meant that they should do their stealling from some inanimate, annonymous company.... that sounds bad too...... oh you know what I mean!!!

Jo xxx

[KhwaamLap]

Eventually people will give up hoping that the police and government will do something and there will be a backlash. Watch for a surge in vigilante attacks (like the post above where his son and friends went back out after the scum) - at some point it will start to become organised and then Britain will be a war zone.

The Government really have to take note and take back our towns a cities from the hoodlums - whatever they've been doing for the last 20 years or so isn't working. They should remember its easy to say sorry after the fact - so forget the PC crap and blag some violent crims.

They act soon enough if you don't pay your council tax or Tv license, that's for sure. Priorities completely up the swanny!

I the UK I lived in the counryside at it was praceful. However, I worked in London and I had friends in towns. I never felt safe walking out of a bar or club at midnight! I now live in Chiang Mai (Thailand) I feel absolutely safe meandering around at 3am half cut here - there are tuktuk drivers and other people wandering around too and not a sign of any violence or vandalism.

If a kids started to write on a wall, someone would give him a clip around the ear - if he called to the police, they would tell him to p off and behave. No PC in Thailand, thank god.

[mrypg9]

Originally Posted by Suenneil

I read this article today and it makes me so glad I dont live in the UK anymore - but it makes me sad at the same time as my kids are still living their lives there - and I wish it were better for them and all the other people just trying to get on with their lives ....No matter how bad things are in Spain at the moment, I cant see myself ever going back to this ! ... and I cant imagine it will get any better ..... only worse.

I genuinely used to love the UK, I grew up feeling proud of where I was from, who I was, and how the World viewed the UK ..... that hasnt been the case now for a long long time ..... very sad

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. | Mail Online

Sue x

I've just come back from a business trip to Denmark and Sweden -I attended a couple of Conferences -and I was struck by how orderly and community-minded everything seemed.
I was sitting in a square in Malmo and a group of teenagers appeared playing loud music from a boom box. A middle-aged man approached them and asked them to respect the comfort of others (presumably, as they switched it off).
If that had been the UK he might well have been assaulted.
Both are extremely expensive high-wage and high -tax societies but there does seem to be a real feeling of community and social responsibility. Welfare benefits are generous but a Danish lawyer colleague told me that there is very little abuse of the system.
I think our lack of social responsibility comes from a mixture of sixties 'me-ism' i.e. do whatever makes you feel good, down with all authority, added to the eighties consumer culture.
Good topic for debate there!!

[mrypg9]

Originally Posted by XTreme

Word of advice to you dog walking ladies!

Get a Rottweiler....nobody will bother you. In fact you'll clear the streets!

Even more so in Spain......they're terrified of them....even to the point of climbing lamp posts or trees.

Doesn't matter if it's the biggest, softest Rottie on the planet.....people will just run for their lives!

Or a Rhodesian Ridgeback!!!
Mine is 54 kilos of muscle, not an ounce of fat on the little darling. Gentle and non-aggressive.......when not required to be!

[Suenneil]

Well, today I read that we shouldnt be feeding our kids ham sandwiches (link to news item below)

I think any research into cancer has to be a good thing, Ive lost close relatives myself to this disease .... but it still seems that everytime they announce some new evidence on the causes or possible causes its linked to some food or drink ...... now its ham and hot dogs etc! Now I dont know whether I should drink more or less red wine ... I cant remember these days if its good or bad for me ? or if chocolate is the same ... cos Im sure last year they told me to eat dark chocolate to reduce cholestrol ? or maybe I got that wrong ?

Its just getting so scarey! what to eat, what not to eat ? now should I be scared that my kids spent most of their school years taking ham sarnies in their pack up ? Will I be tortured with guilt waiting for them to become ill ? I hope not!! but then Ive eaten tons of ham in my lifetime so maybe Im destined for some bad years ahead myself!

God Im depressed !

Ham sandwich warning to parents - Yahoo! News UK

Sue x x x x

[Chica]

Originally Posted by Suenneil

Well, today I read that we shouldnt be feeding our kids ham sandwiches (link to news item below)

I think any research into cancer has to be a good thing, Ive lost close relatives myself to this disease .... but it still seems that everytime they announce some new evidence on the causes or possible causes its linked to some food or drink ...... now its ham and hot dogs etc! Now I dont know whether I should drink more or less red wine ... I cant remember these days if its good or bad for me ? or if chocolate is the same ... cos Im sure last year they told me to eat dark chocolate to reduce cholestrol ? or maybe I got that wrong ?

Its just getting so scarey! what to eat, what not to eat ? now should I be scared that my kids spent most of their school years taking ham sarnies in their pack up ? Will I be tortured with guilt waiting for them to become ill ? I hope not!! but then Ive eaten tons of ham in my lifetime so maybe Im destined for some bad years ahead myself!

God Im depressed !

Ham sandwich warning to parents - Yahoo! News UK

Sue x x x x

I'm sceptical about these food fads. It's just fashion...lol. I think everything in moderation is ok health wise. Be nice if I could stick to it tho'

[the sarge]

Originally Posted by jojo

I agree Sue, and there is a sense of menace when you walk around the towns in the evening/night etc. The UK has almost become a lawless society these days, cos the government is so soft. However, the media, as usual exaggerate cos its not like that everywhere, but the danger of the exaggeration is it becomes a reality... talk about anything enough and it spreads and becomes a reality!

I have been here in the UK for nearly a week and its not a very pleasant place to be. When I get back I'm gonna write about my observations fully on here I think!?!

Jo xx

Hi Jo Jo

Male 59 ready to retire, wife wants to stay in England but will move when things are sorted 5-10 years who knows I don’t understand a woman’s brain.

I Was in the Army lived in Cyprus have visited and stayed there since and was thinking of going there, but distance cost of flights, title deeds problem and now expensive houses, think of swapping 340 days sunshine in Cyprus for 300 days in Spain plus shorter distance, cheaper flights, cheaper houses, no title deeds issues!!!
To have two houses the Spanish one will have to be about £100,000. I have done great deal of Internet searching and think Malaga is the airport Cheap flights from Liverpool by Easy jet.
Inland is the Area, Montes de Malaga seems to fit the bill.

So Now the Questions
1. If you had no mortgage to pay How much would you need to live on
2. What is the climate like in the area Montes de Malaga as opposed to the coast
3. Is Sky and Internet available in that area
4. Is villa crime a problem in that area
Although I have not visited the area I know that I want to live in a warmer climate, a country house with some land seems to be affordable I will rent for a period to ensure that I am happy before purchasing.
Tips hints and advice please

Peter