Having a baby in Spain?

[Luvvin-tarifa]

Ok this is on behalf of my friend who has not got internet anymore!

What is the process of giving birth in Spain, for a single woman who is going to be 28 weeks when she moves out there. She has independant means and the baby was conceived via a donor, so what is the process?

[jojo]

gosh, I suspect when she arrives she would need to go to a doctors clinic/surgery and get registered and take it from there?? The hospitals are second to none here so she should get a good service. I have no idea how much it will cost tho?

Jo xx

[Luvvin-tarifa]

Originally Posted by jojo

gosh, I suspect when she arrives she would need to go to a doctors clinic/surgery and get registered and take it from there?? The hospitals are second to none here so she should get a good service. I have no idea how much it will cost tho?

Jo xx

Hi Jo,

I think she is more worried about registering the baby after it is born, and wanting to know if a home birth is possible? also she has two other children who are coming with her, she has tried without fail to locate their father (he left when her daughter was only 6 months and has not been seen since it is rumoured he is in Australia) So can she get residency for them without a letter giving his permission? There is no residency order in the Uk for them and the court basically said she would not need a letter as there is no residency court order in place. I think their fathers name is on the birth certificate but am not 100%.
Sorry so many questions but she is trying to get organised and give the kids a better life!

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Luvvin-tarifa

Hi Jo,

I think she is more worried about registering the baby after it is born, and wanting to know if a home birth is possible? also she has two other children who are coming with her, she has tried without fail to locate their father (he left when her daughter was only 6 months and has not been seen since it is rumoured he is in Australia) So can she get residency for them without a letter giving his permission? There is no residency order in the Uk for them and the court basically said she would not need a letter as there is no residency court order in place. I think their fathers name is on the birth certificate but am not 100%.
Sorry so many questions but she is trying to get organised and give the kids a better life!

You have to register the birth in the country where you are when the baby is born. If only cos the baby would need a passport to travel and without being registered it cant have one. I would imagine a home birth is possible but that would have to be supervised by the medical profession, as would the remainder of her pregnancy, which is compulsory in the UK, and I pressume in Spain too

Her older children may be more complicated?? If they already have passports then I guess they can leave the UK and stay away unless there is a specific order from their natural father saying that that they cant. I´m not sure if they could become residents without his consent IF his name is on their birth certificates. I also think that there would be problems getting passports for them if again his name is on their birth certificates.

She would be sensible to get in touch with the british/spanish consulate

Jo xxx

[Luvvin-tarifa]

Hi, Yes she already has passports for them so that is not a problem, and she knew she would have to register the baby over there and get a passport from the British Consulate, I think her worry is that she does not know who the father is as the baby was conceived via a clinic so she was not told the fathers details, so she is wondering if this will be a problem, she was originally moving to portugal with me but then found that donor babies is a definite no no over there!

She had a home birth with her last baby and really wants to have this one at home, but so far I can only find inconclusive evidence that this is or is not possible, most sites just mention hospital births which from reading other womens experiences is rather frightening! being leaned on to push the baby out forcefully is not my cup of tea and will make her freak!

She will need to get social secirity numbers for her and the children and residency I am told to live there and rent a place/open a bank account? so this is why she is worried regarding lack of father around to give his permission.

She spoke to the court and passport office who said that as there is no residency order in place in the UK she can move the children without his permission but it is what happens in Spain that she is worrying about!

Such a big decision for her and she really wants a better life for her kids, it seems a shame that it might not be possible!

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Luvvin-tarifa

Hi, Yes she already has passports for them so that is not a problem, and she knew she would have to register the baby over there and get a passport from the British Consulate, I think her worry is that she does not know who the father is as the baby was conceived via a clinic so she was not told the fathers details, so she is wondering if this will be a problem, she was originally moving to portugal with me but then found that donor babies is a definite no no over there!

She had a home birth with her last baby and really wants to have this one at home, but so far I can only find inconclusive evidence that this is or is not possible, most sites just mention hospital births which from reading other womens experiences is rather frightening! being leaned on to push the baby out forcefully is not my cup of tea and will make her freak!

She will need to get social secirity numbers for her and the children and residency I am told to live there and rent a place/open a bank account? so this is why she is worried regarding lack of father around to give his permission.

She spoke to the court and passport office who said that as there is no residency order in place in the UK she can move the children without his permission but it is what happens in Spain that she is worrying about!

Such a big decision for her and she really wants a better life for her kids, it seems a shame that it might not be possible!

It seems an awful lot of extra stress before the baby is born, would it not be more simple to wait until the baby´s born??

As for being leaned on to push the baby out?? well thats an old fashioned method that was used for centuries, before modern intervention came along!! I studied child birth for some medical exams "many moons" ago and its frightening how they used to do things in the middle ages.... dont worry I wont go into them lol!!

Jo xx

[Luvvin-tarifa]

Hiya, well the main reason she is probably nto going to wait is that she has been offered a reasonably priced rental which will not stick around for very long, but also that her rental place in the UK is up in a month and she wont have anywhere to live over here, so that is her reason for not waiting she is not due until september and would find it difficult to find a short term rental place over here majority is 6 months and then she would loose the place in Spain!
A bit of a vicious circle lol.

And the reports of the delivery methods were from people who have given birth this year in various parts of spain! Definitely middle ages if you ask me!

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Luvvin-tarifa

Hiya, well the main reason she is probably nto going to wait is that she has been offered a reasonably priced rental which will not stick around for very long, but also that her rental place in the UK is up in a month and she wont have anywhere to live over here, so that is her reason for not waiting she is not due until september and would find it difficult to find a short term rental place over here majority is 6 months and then she would loose the place in Spain!
A bit of a vicious circle lol.

And the reports of the delivery methods were from people who have given birth this year in various parts of spain! Definitely middle ages if you ask me!

I dont know about births in Spain, but I do know that hospitals in Spain are infinately better than UK, cleaner, more modern, hi tech, better run, more efficient. If I was ever unfortunate enough to get ill I would sooner be in Spain anyday!!!! But if she´s planning a birth at home, she would be treated the swame as any other euroean country

As for rent in spain well there´s loads of cheap places here. In any case, I would assume that your friend would have to pay to have her child here (she should check this cos although emergency treatment is covered, knowingly having a baby here may not be covered), so any reasonable rent would be negated by that, cos health care isnt cheap and then there would be child care for her other children????? Also rentals over here are falling by the day and there are lots of rental property available

I would suggest that your friend looks into all this very carefully, it seems like major complications, risks and costs just to bring her children up in Spain when it would be easier and probably cheaper to wait for a few weeks after the birth. She really needs to makecontact with the relevant embassies/consulates!!

Jo

[Tallulah]

Originally Posted by Luvvin-tarifa

Hiya, well the main reason she is probably nto going to wait is that she has been offered a reasonably priced rental which will not stick around for very long, but also that her rental place in the UK is up in a month and she wont have anywhere to live over here, so that is her reason for not waiting she is not due until september and would find it difficult to find a short term rental place over here majority is 6 months and then she would loose the place in Spain!
A bit of a vicious circle lol.

And the reports of the delivery methods were from people who have given birth this year in various parts of spain! Definitely middle ages if you ask me!

Luvvin-tarifa,

Home births are available in Spain, but obviously requires some investigation depending upon the area in which she chooses to live - there is information available on Embarazo, bebés, maternidad. Bebés y más which is a website that covers parenting/childbirth in Spain - home births are covered within this, including approximate costs.

Tallulah.

ps - interested to know why Portugal is a no-no on donor babies - is IVF not available/accepted there?

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Luvvin-tarifa

She will need to get social secirity numbers for her and the children and residency I am told to live there and rent a place/open a bank account? so this is why she is worried regarding lack of father around to give his permission.

To rent in Spain you only need a Spanish bank account in most places. To live here she needs a padron and an NIE number. The children would be included in those I believe... well mine are on mine

Jo