: Motorbike and Scooter info on laws for riding etc

[oddball]

Well Pete , i got an answer from the tourist people as promised , am i British , do i read , write and speak Spanish . From your response to the Spanish 'Laws' , you do not speak or read Spanish , looks like you need to be 18 and have full residency , although , as in this country , rules are definitely made to be broken . Will write back to them and see what they say . Colin

[oddball]

Originally Posted by Big Pete

Now if only i could speak and read Spanish i would be sorted ..

Thanks for posting it though ..
Any translators in the house ?

I wrote back to the tour guys and they responded almost immediatly . They said because of your lack of Spanish , you will not be able to get a license there , he suggested you go through 'Reme' in the UK , who-ever they may be , they ( the tour people ) are prepared to assist you to obtain a license if neccessary . Can you not just apply for an international license on your existing UK license through a motoring organisation ? Colin

[Stravinsky]

Petes idea of speaking Spanish is to add an "O" to the end of most words

BTW Pete, check your driving licence, I think you may find you are able to ride a moped on it ..... not sure if you just have to do a course or not nowadays.

[Big Pete]

Originally Posted by oddball

I wrote back to the tour guys and they responded almost immediatly . They said because of your lack of Spanish , you will not be able to get a license there , he suggested you go through 'Reme' in the UK , who-ever they may be , they ( the tour people ) are prepared to assist you to obtain a license if neccessary . Can you not just apply for an international license on your existing UK license through a motoring organisation ? Colin

Its not me i am worried about i have full licence for anything that rolls nearly;

I am just trying to see what the rules are over there to see if its viable to send a truck load of state of the art moped & scooters over to sell etc..

Hence why the cc and stuff is important .


I cant read Spanish although i speak it in my own get by fashion

[Stravinsky]

Originally Posted by Big Pete

Its not me i am worried about i have full licence for anything that rolls nearly;

I am just trying to see what the rules are over there to see if its viable to send a truck load of state of the art moped & scooters over to sell etc..

Hence why the cc and stuff is important .


I cant read Spanish although i speak it in my own get by fashion

Pete, I cant remember the price but I remember seeing a scooter in Carrefour some months ago and thinking how cheap they are over here. You'd need to import them direct from FE I think to stand a chance

[Big Pete]

Originally Posted by Stravinsky

Pete, I cant remember the price but I remember seeing a scooter in Carrefour some months ago and thinking how cheap they are over here. You'd need to import them direct from FE I think to stand a chance

Oh they are mega cheap to buy in bulk Strav thats why i reckon it may be worth a punt to try a batch on the island , sell a few rent a few or something to keep me out of mishchief .. depends on the laws on who can ride them and stuff hence why i am asking for info ..
Brought products over in the UK many a time From China ,India and Korea even,and it never ceases to amaze me how the heck they make the stuff at the prices ..


So just need to see what the age and cc rules are in Spain .

[chris(madrid)]

OK - The problem with IMPORTING a whole mass of mopeds - is that there are already loads here - they're cheap and unlike (say) the UK - Home maintaining is uncommon. After sales will matter.

To get them a plate (legally they need one) they'll have to pass an ITV inspection so all lights etc MUST BE "E" marked. And if unknown in the EEC(really I mean Spain) they'll need to be homologated by an entity like INTA before you'll get ITV inspection papers to allow registration. This could cost a fair bit.

That or each one will need a one-off set of papers. This will add a €1000 (approx) to unit costs.

A 16year old CAN ride a moped - but they still need a licence - and yes a lid is a legal requirement. I don't know what the rest of Spain is like - but here un-plated bikes ridden without lids were common - but they're REALLY CLAMPING DOWN. Points and even withdrawal of license for either offence - and fines that may not sound HIGH but depends how much you earn.

I've an old friend here in Madrid that tried to bring similar stuff in from Italy - flopped miserably. Genuine €uro bikes - but too pricey and high consumption. Also you'll need to get the scooter mags to help - A LOT of scooters are purchased based on their recommendations.

imo you'll need to sell A LOT.

[TrashCan*8]

Originally Posted by Big Pete

Now if only i could speak and read Spanish i would be sorted ..

Thanks for posting it though ..
Any translators in the house ?

The required minimum age for the obtaining of the conduction permission will be the following one: Sixteen years fulfilled for the permission of a1 class. Eighteen years fulfilled for the permission of the class A . However, the authorization to drive motorcycles with a power superior to 25 kilowatts (KW) or one relation power/weight superior to 0.16 kilowatts/kilogram (KW/Kg) (or motorcycles with side-car with a relation power/weight superior to 0.16 kilowatts/kilogram), it will be submitted to the acquisition of a minimum experience of two years in the conduction of motorcycles of characteristics inferiors to previously indicated, but superiors to those of the motorcycles that it authorizes to lead the permission of the class A1 The permission of the class B and B+E. The permission of the classes C1, C1+E, C and C+E . Despite obtaining permission of the class C to the 18 years, it will be requisite essential that the applicant is holder of a certificate of professional aptitude. Of not being to title of the mentioned certificate, the permission of the class C it will not be possible to be obtained until veintiún fulfilled years. Veintiún fulfilled years for the permission of the classes D1, D1+E, D and D+E. OTHER REQUIREMENTS: To have the normal residence in Spain or, of being student, demonstrating the quality of so during a continued minimum period of six months in Spanish territory, and to have fulfilled the age required. Not to be prevailed by judicial resolution of the right to drive motor vehicles and mopeds, nor to be put under suspension or intervention del that is controlled To reunite to the aptitudes psychophysicals required in relation to the permission class that is asked for. To be declared apt by the Provincial or Local Headquarters of Traffic in the theoretical and practical tests, in relation to the class of the asked for permission.

[gavstar1976]

Originally Posted by Big Pete

Now if only i could speak and read Spanish i would be sorted ..

Thanks for posting it though ..
Any translators in the house ?

Dont know if this actually helps pete but i ran that spanish txt through an online translator and this is what came up.

The minimum age required for the obtaining of the driver's license will be the following one:



Sixteen polite years for the permission of the class A1.



Eighteen polite years for the permission of the class TO. Nevertheless, the authorization to conduct motorcycles with a power over 25 kilowatts (KW) or a relation power/weight over 0.16 kilowatts/kilogram (KW/Kg) (or motorcycles with sidecar with a relation power/weight over 0.16 kilowatts/kilogram), will be subordinated to the acquisition of a minimum experience of two years in the lower characteristics motorcycles conduction to the previously indicated, but over those of the the permission of the class A1



The permission of the class B and B + AND.



The permission of the classes C1, C1+E, C and C + AND. Nevertheless to obtain permission of the class C at the age of 18, will be indispensable requirement that the applicant be holder of a certificate of professional aptitude. Of be not a holder of the mentioned certificate,
the permission of the class C will not be able to obtain to the twenty-one polite years.



Twenty-one polite years for the permission of the classes D1, D1+E, D and D + AND.



OTHER REQUIREMENTS:



Having the normal residence in Spain or, of being a student, to show the quality of such during a most minimum period continued of six months in Spanish territory, and to have completed the age required.



Be not private by judicial resolution of the right to conduct motor vehicles and mopeds, neither to be found submitted to suspension or intervention of the one that be possessed



Meeting the aptitudes psicofísicas required in relation to the class of permission that be requested.

It to be declared eligible by the Provincial Headquarters or Localities of Traffic in the practical and theoretical tests, in relation to the class of the requested permission.