latest news regarding tarjeta sanitaria

[enjoylife]

can somebody translate this for the members here.......thanks


El Gobierno rebaja los requisitos para obtener la tarjeta sanitaria | Sociedad | EL PAÍS

[jojo]

My google translated it automatically (nearly!!???) The first bit says this - not fully sure of what it means tho!?????

All who enter less than 100,000 euros a year and is in a legal situation in Spain is entitled to health insurance card. The rotation of the Ministry of Health is radical from the Royal Decree Law of 20 April. Then there were only two options: either have Social Security contributions, or benefit from the provision for the needy. All that has been superseded even before entering into force, as is clear from the draft royal decree prepared by the Ministry of Health has had access to COUNTRY. It states that for legal residents (Spanish or foreign) who have not paid into Social Security, it is sufficient evidence that they have entered less than 100,000 euros a year and have card.

Jo xxx

[xabiachica]

Originally Posted by enjoylife

can somebody translate this for the members here.......thanks


El Gobierno rebaja los requisitos para obtener la tarjeta sanitaria | Sociedad | EL PAÍS

Ministry backtracks on healthcare entitlement restrictions | In English | EL PAÍS

[Solwriter]

Originally Posted by xabiachica

Ministry backtracks on healthcare entitlement restrictions | In English | EL PAÍS

So better for Spanish Nationals than previously. That's good news.

The new legislation is an attempt to patch up these holes. From now on, anyone over 26 who has never paid Social Security will still be allowed to use the public health network, as long as they make under 100,000 euros a year.

But still the same harsher rulings for EU immigrants...

But at the same time, the law gets tougher on residents from the European Union who neither work nor study - such as retired people who live off a pension or personal savings, for instance.

From now on, their residency will be subject to their "not becoming an excessive burden on Spain's social assistance."

The purpose of the legislative change is unclear, but several experts consulted by EL PAÍS said that the point is to prevent people from coming to Spain without a job but with resources (for instance, after selling his or her house back home), and later abusing the system when their money runs out. In other words, only EU residents who can pay for their own upkeep may remain here.

[Hepa]

I do not think that it will affect this old git.

[gus-lopez]

"But at the same time, the law gets tougher on residents from the European Union who neither work nor study - such as retired people who live off a pension or personal savings, for instance.

From now on, their residency will be subject to their "not becoming an excessive burden on Spain's social assistance."


That can only apply to new residents.EU rules prevent it being applied retrospectively.


The purpose of the legislative change is unclear, but several experts consulted by EL PAÍS said that the point is to prevent people from coming to Spain without a job but with resources (for instance, after selling his or her house back home), and later abusing the system when their money runs out. In other words, only EU residents who can pay for their own upkeep may remain here.

But if they come with money, job , etc; & are registered on the 'registro cuidadano de la union' & after 5 years get the 'permanent resident certificate ' then lose all their money /job they cannot be legally thrown out /asked to leave.

The draft legislation says that "resorting to social assistance in Spain by a citizen of the Union or a member of his family will not automatically result in expulsion."

It cannot, ever, it is written in stone in EU rules. Only terrorism, acts against the state , etc; can result in an EU citizen being expelled /deported.

It all reads to me as the best they could cobble up after announcing everything they were going to do , then realising that legally, under EU rules , they basically can't do anything !

[Solwriter]

Originally Posted by gus-lopez

It all reads to me as the best they could cobble up after announcing everything they were going to do , then realising that legally, under EU rules , they basically can't do anything !

That's how it reads to me too.
But whether or not they can actually do this is only part of the equation.

It's the continued uncertainty, both on the part of officials and of those at the moment caught up in the application process, or those who were ready to apply but are now having a rethink, that is still a problem.

[MacRov]

So does that mean that someone like myself, who lives in Spain but works in the UK and pays tax etc in the UK and earning under €100K per year would be entitled to health care, would that include my wife & kids ?

confused

[gus-lopez]

Originally Posted by MacRov

So does that mean that someone like myself, who lives in Spain but works in the UK and pays tax etc in the UK and earning under €100K per year would be entitled to health care, would that include my wife & kids ?

confused

No. That's for people earning it here.
Your wife & children are entitled to spanish healthcare once resident, with the S1 form . They are entitled by virtue of you working & paying in , in another member state whilst the family are living here. You, as the worker, are entitled to full UK healthcare & when in Spain use your EHIC.

[MacRov]

I was just curious as I pay for private healthcare anyway, cheers for clearing it up.