Mechanic work in benalmadena

[xabiachica]

Originally Posted by jojo

Theres no problem with looking, indeed its something that all potential expats should do, but remember this guy has a family, a girlfriend and children. Is he really going to make enough money to support them all??? No child allowance, no welfare or tax credits and unless he's contracted, no healthcare for any of them either.

But I'm sure if he finds "speedies" (Do I know where that is??? I've not heard of it), they'll be able to talk about what he can expect, how things are and whether they have enough work for another employee

Jo xxx

actually come to think of it - these new 'proof of income & healthcare' requirements should stop families with children coming 'on spec'

without fulfilling the requirements & registering as resident, they won't be able to get the children into school.......

[playamonte]

Originally Posted by jojo

Theres no problem with looking, indeed its something that all potential expats should do, but remember this guy has a family, a girlfriend and children. Is he really going to make enough money to support them all??? No child allowance, no welfare or tax credits and unless he's contracted, no healthcare for any of them either.

But I'm sure if he finds "speedies" (Do I know where that is??? I've not heard of it), they'll be able to talk about what he can expect, how things are and whether they have enough work for another employee

Jo xxx

Hi Jo. (and everyone)
The lad has booked a trip & is coming over anyway.
Odds on he has read all the stuff about the unemployment issue.
Will cost nothing to pop into a garage and ask from the horses mouth & that speedies place was very busy when I checked about pricing for someone who had an issue with a rover (well they would have of course)
They are based on the industrial estate at the rear of the Iceland/Dunns one.

[mrypg9]

Originally Posted by playamonte

Hi Jo. (and everyone)
The lad has booked a trip & is coming over anyway.
Odds on he has read all the stuff about the unemployment issue.
Will cost nothing to pop into a garage and ask from the horses mouth & that speedies place was very busy when I checked about pricing for someone who had an issue with a rover (well they would have of course)
They are based on the industrial estate at the rear of the Iceland/Dunns one.

That is the best and only way to learn how things are.

Does anyone blame the Spanish authorities for trying to ensure that people coming here have the means to support themselves? I'm surprised they didn't before. I had to supply proof of income when I applied for residential status in the Czech Republic.

Why should anyone come to Spain at any time, let alone a time like this, and expect the Spanish people to keep them if their income is insufficient to do so
Have people no shame?

[Pesky Wesky]

Originally Posted by mrypg9

That is the best and only way to learn how things are.

Does anyone blame the Spanish authorities for trying to ensure that people coming here have the means to support themselves? I'm surprised they didn't before. I had to supply proof of income when I applied for residential status in the Czech Republic.

Why should anyone come to Spain at any time, let alone a time like this, and expect the Spanish people to keep them if their income is insufficient to do so
Have people no shame?

But how do they do it?
How do they know if you're coming on hjoliday, business or to live?
What is considered proof?

[xabiachica]

Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

But how do they do it?
How do they know if you're coming on hjoliday, business or to live?
What is considered proof?

you have to register as resident after 90 days - & you need that resident cert for so many things, such as school, buying a car etc. - & they won't issue a cert without the proof

as to exactly what constitutes proof is anyone's guess atm - although I just replied on another thread that they are asking for S1 for healthcare proof

[Pesky Wesky]

Originally Posted by xabiachica

you have to register as resident after 90 days - & you need that resident cert for so many things, such as school, buying a car etc. - & they won't issue a cert without the proof

as to exactly what constitutes proof is anyone's guess atm - although I just replied on another thread that they are asking for S1 for healthcare proof

So they don't get you in the airport, they get you when you're trying to register as a resident.
I would have thought that the result would be a lot of people not registering, but as you say that could buug++er you up when trying to register at schools etc .
From what I can make out they haven't made a big thing out of this, so some people will be coming over, not knowing about these changes, and they may not find out about them until they have been here for a couple of months or longer!!
Or is that not the right picture?

[mrypg9]

Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

So they don't get you in the airport, they get you when you're trying to register as a resident.
I would have thought that the result would be a lot of people not registering, but as you say that could buug++er you up when trying to register at schools etc .
From what I can make out they haven't made a big thing out of this, so some people will be coming over, not knowing about these changes, and they may not find out about them until they have been here for a couple of months or longer!!
Or is that not the right picture?

I had to show bank statements and proof of source of income in Prague,plus evidence I had medical insurance - I was too young to qualify for free health cover then.... That was when I registered with the Foreign Police.

It was necessary to register to be able to do many quite simple things...buy a car, let alone put it in my name. Police checks on foreigners were frequent...it was for forty years a socialist state with all the paraphernalia and mindset of a police state still in place.

Tbh, I see nothing wrong with having to show you can maintain yourself in another country. It amuses me when people tell would-be immigrants to look for work in Canada or Australia.....the procedures you go through to be able to live and work there are more complicated than in Spain. Although I had property in Canada, relatives there and means to support myself I doubt I would have been granted resident status.

When people describe procedures such as these for would-be immigrants as 'racist' they are labelling very many countries in the world as 'racist'. Few countries are as liberal as the UK.

After all, what other country would keep an illegal immigrant, Al Qaeda's contact in the UK, a proven preacher of jihad and hatred, together with his wives in a large house paid for by the British taxpayer along with his other considerable welfare benefits, when he is wanted for crimes in another country? His appeal will be heard in November and hopefully he will be returned to Jordan...but he may be alowed on bail because of his 'human rights'....

And possibly when the Olympics are taking place....

[xabiachica]

Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

So they don't get you in the airport, they get you when you're trying to register as a resident.
I would have thought that the result would be a lot of people not registering, but as you say that could buug++er you up when trying to register at schools etc .
From what I can make out they haven't made a big thing out of this, so some people will be coming over, not knowing about these changes, and they may not find out about them until they have been here for a couple of months or longer!!
Or is that not the right picture?

that's exactly right

people don't know until they actually go to register, and even the offices aren't exactly clear on what is required

I did read of the Málaga office issuing certs this week without asking for anything in the way of proof, though

[Hepa]

Here there is an incentive to become resident, flights and ferries almost half price, throughout Spanish territory. Holidays in Santander this year

[gus-lopez]

The real problem is that although eU rules state that countries can require you to obtain a certificate ( to allow countries to know how many resident eu foreigners there are ) & you can be fined ,once, for failing to register ( 300€ in spain , 59€ in greece ) EU rules also state that you are resident from the day that YOU dcide you are.
" No eu state can confer residencey on another eu citizen. It is the right of the citizen to decide that he is resident."

In all honesty I can see all this dragging out for years as you have two completely contradicting eu rules & thiswill all end up many years down the line requiring an eu court judgement. That's if we are all still in it !