Moving to Marbella

[liamandbonnie]

Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

Hi Liam and Bonnie,
I've been keeping off this thread and some others similar as there have been a glut of them recently, and the answer is always the same. Think about it, think about it and think again!!
I have been accused of being too negative, of coming over too strongly to people potentially moving to Spain, and also some of the OPs become quite defensive and even agressive as they don't hear what they want ie come on over, life's great, life's easy and you won't regret it.

You seem to be sensible people though, and are taking the good advice given here well. I agree with most of what has been said here. If you look at other threads about Spain today, unemployment, work, moving to Spain you'll see many of my comments. Spain is in the midst of a huge crisis, and recent reports have said that things are not going to start going up instead of down until 2020, so we've got an awful long way to fall yet.

Many Brits are hanging on to the idea of Spain at the begining of the century. The years 2000 - 2006/7 were golden years where Spain grew and prospered incredibly. You could come over with a rucksack on your back and "make it" almost anywhere. But not any more. The idea of "I'll turn my hand to anything" is just not enough. If it were then I think the 5million+++ Spaniards who are unemployed would have twigged that idea themselves

This forum is a mine of information as you are discovering and mayotom's offer to introduce you to a group of people already living in the area is gold. So all you have to do is wait and plan.

BUT, you may be better off looking at another country (although at the moment...) or another area of the UK

PS Good luck, and hope your opportunity, whatever it is comes up soon

Thanks for the reply
I think people get something in their heads and when someone disagrees with it the jump on the defensive. I am not so naive or rude to react in such a way, so far negative or not every reply has been nothing but genuine advice from people who are able to give an informed opinion, which is perfect!
I will continue to research it again and again. But we will also both look at other places to moves to and search every criteria before doing so (political climate, economic stability, property prices..rent and buy, taxes, language etc)

Anyway I wont ramble on too much lol.
Thank you and good luck to you as well with whatever you are doing.

[liamandbonnie]

Originally Posted by bob_bob

Your both young, lots of time yet. Moving to an English speaking country is far easier IF you have skills that are needed. Go and finish training as an electrician, do a degree in nursing...get skills, no skills = no new life abroad. At the moment you have nothing to offer a Spanish employer even if you spoke Spanish to a very high level.

Go and train and look to Canada, New Zealand, Australia, big countries with space for you to prosper and grow (and a common language) unlike Spain where in all likelihood you will fail.

GO BACK TO SCHOOL!

We are looking at Canada and Australia as a possibilities, of course you need a trade for both, my girlfriend having done beauty all her life has a trade, now I need one

I am sure whatever happens, it will work out for the best.
Thank you for reply

[xabiachica]

Originally Posted by liamandbonnie

We are looking at Canada and Australia as a possibilities, of course you need a trade for both, my girlfriend having done beauty all her life has a trade, now I need one

I am sure whatever happens, it will work out for the best.
Thank you for reply

I dare say it might have changed/got harder now, but brother & his now ex wife got into aus 20 years ago with her hairdressing quals (even though she had/has never actually worked as a hairdresser) - he didn't have a trade

it might be worth looking into it more carefully to see what IS in demand there now - take a look at our Aus forum

[Pesky Wesky]

Originally Posted by liamandbonnie

We are looking at Canada and Australia as a possibilities, of course you need a trade for both, my girlfriend having done beauty all her life has a trade, now I need one

I am sure whatever happens, it will work out for the best.
Thank you for reply

Well, from your posts here I'd say you've got people skills - you think about what you've got to say, you listen, you're polite, you're ok at expressing yourself... shop work, perhaps with a company that you can move up in, teaching (requiring more training possibly), nursing is often in demand especially geriatric, flight attendant...
What are you doing now? Do you have any qualifications?

PS Bonnie probably has this all under control, but I feel I have to say that the beauty world is constantly changing nowadays with new techniques for nail, hair and skin care, so she really has to keep up with that and go on training courses.

[bob_bob]

Originally Posted by mrypg9

I don't know about the other two countries but Canada very sensibly allows in only those who can meet very strict criteria and have a skill or profession in short supply in the country.

Australia, Canada and NZ love Brit Nurses, very easy to get work in any of those countries.

[liamandbonnie]

Originally Posted by xabiachica

I dare say it might have changed/got harder now, but brother & his now ex wife got into aus 20 years ago with her hairdressing quals (even though she had/has never actually worked as a hairdresser) - he didn't have a trade

it might be worth looking into it more carefully to see what IS in demand there now - take a look at our Aus forum

Thanks, we will give the AUS forum a look over for sure!
I just posted in Portugal forum too as similar to Spain. Although this place is a gold mine of information so we will look through all the forums.

[liamandbonnie]

Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky

Well, from your posts here I'd say you've got people skills - you think about what you've got to say, you listen, you're polite, you're ok at expressing yourself... shop work, perhaps with a company that you can move up in, teaching (requiring more training possibly), nursing is often in demand especially geriatric, flight attendant...
What are you doing now? Do you have any qualifications?

PS Bonnie probably has this all under control, but I feel I have to say that the beauty world is constantly changing nowadays with new techniques for nail, hair and skin care, so she really has to keep up with that and go on training courses.

I have GSCE's and A levels, never carried on until University though, which perhaps I should of I just didn't feel I could afford to pay of the uni loans afterwards. I have posted earlier in the thread the work I have done. But it seems most of the work I have done isn't in demand in Spain, which is a shame.
To mirror earlier posts, Spain is or at least was our top place to move to but we are not so unrelenting in opinion that we won't consider other possibilities. We are taking a look at Portugal, Canada, Australia, Italy etc
We have both always wanted to travel and move abroad and that urge to move somewhere different, new, exciting, challenging is still there.
Still unsure where we are planning to move, but as I have mentioned many times, this place is a gold mine of people who are/have been in this situation so we are going to base our decision of the advice given to us by people such as yourself.

Thanks again.

[Sirtravelot]

Originally Posted by liamandbonnie

I have GSCE's and A levels, never carried on until University though, which perhaps I should of I just didn't feel I could afford to pay of the uni loans afterwards. I have posted earlier in the thread the work I have done. But it seems most of the work I have done isn't in demand in Spain, which is a shame.
To mirror earlier posts, Spain is or at least was our top place to move to but we are not so unrelenting in opinion that we won't consider other possibilities. We are taking a look at Portugal, Canada, Australia, Italy etc
We have both always wanted to travel and move abroad and that urge to move somewhere different, new, exciting, challenging is still there.
Still unsure where we are planning to move, but as I have mentioned many times, this place is a gold mine of people who are/have been in this situation so we are going to base our decision of the advice given to us by people such as yourself.

Thanks again.

In my opinion, forget Portugal.

I was born there and spent my first 11 years there and have since been there a few times. It's basically a mini-version of Spain with a lot less expats than Spain.

The place is also in a mess. Less unemployment, but also lower salaries and higher property prices, although they may also be falling, don't quote me though.

I've got friends there in their 20s just finishing their uni courses. I'm curious to find out if they'll find any work after they graduate. A lot of young Portuguese adults are trying to find work in Angola or Brazil whereas 5 years ago it used to be the other way around.

The new Portuguese President has even said that if people can leave the country, they should. I hate to sound so pessimistic, but the situation is pessimistic. It's the country I was born in and it pains me to hear these things.

Italy, I don't know. But I heard that Italians are trying to learn German to move there to find work and then come back with experience for whenever Italy's economy recovers.

For better or worse, at the moment Germany is Europe's El Dorado. Every city there has an Irish or British pub. Maybe try and get in contact with them? Just an idea.

[liamandbonnie]

Originally Posted by Sirtravelot

In my opinion, forget Portugal.

I was born there and spent my first 11 years there and have since been there a few times. It's basically a mini-version of Spain with a lot less expats than Spain.

The place is also in a mess. Less unemployment, but also lower salaries and higher property prices, although they may also be falling, don't quote me though.

I've got friends there in their 20s just finishing their uni courses. I'm curious to find out if they'll find any work after they graduate. A lot of young Portuguese adults are trying to find work in Angola or Brazil whereas 5 years ago it used to be the other way around.

The new Portuguese President has even said that if people can leave the country, they should. I hate to sound so pessimistic, but the situation is pessimistic. It's the country I was born in and it pains me to hear these things.

Italy, I don't know. But I heard that Italians are trying to learn German to move there to find work and then come back with experience for whenever Italy's economy recovers.

For better or worse, at the moment Germany is Europe's El Dorado. Every city there has an Irish or British pub. Maybe try and get in contact with them? Just an idea.

The whole situation does sound pessimistic but it just seems we picked a terrible time to try and move abroad. I appreciate your reply though. I have seen from a lot of websites that currently Germany is the best place to live in Europe, its just not quite the sun, sea and sand adventure we had in mind, but realistically who knows what we are going to do at the moment. Much more research in everything is needed.
Again thanks for the info regarding Portugal.

[liamandbonnie]

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but just out of interest from Spanish residents/expats where is the best place to live in Spain in regards employment?

Thank you again and sorry to consistently ask about it.